Do I make anyone wonder if I have a screw loose?

[Aspigander]

A while back, I was talking to my mom about something I posted here. It was about the thing with my dad and fishing situation. Well I mentioned one thing (that I didn't mention in my posts about it, but might have had I thought about it as I was posting because I wouldn't have seen anything inappropriate about it), and my mom goes: "I hope you didn't post that. They might think there's something really perverse going on."

So I must ask...have I ever said anything here that makes anyone think I have that kind of a screw loose? Can anyone see me saying anything that would make you think that?

[roadracer]

heck, if you have some screws loose, I have a screw driver if you want to tighten them :D, just remember, 'lefty loosy, righty tighty'
(then we can just pass the screw driver around so everyone can tighten there loose screws)

anyway, what do you mean? can you define what it is to have a loose screw (other then the obvous), and what are you doing that makes you think you have loose screws?

[tgrimes]

Well, maybe it would be too personal for your mom, but not for you... you should feel free to say stuff that is on your mind.
I think I have a few screws loose myself :)

[Aspigander]

anyway, what do you mean? can you define what it is to have a loose screw (other then the obvous), and what are you doing that makes you think you have loose screws?

Well, okay. I was deliberately vague in my post so as not to say what it was that made my mom think you guys might think I had a screw loose, but here goes...

Remember when I posted about not fishing in 2007 or 2008? After I made that post, I remembered why I didn't fish in 2007. I was only up once, for one weekend, and because of something that happened, I didn't ask to go back that year (so since I didn't ask to go back to the boat, not fishing in 2007 was partly my fault).

Anyway, because the cabin of a boat is relatively small, you tend to have fairly close sleeping quarters. Sure, there are a few different berths to choose from, but my dad and I both preferred the one in the bow, called the v-bunk, which sleeps two people. What happened was, I was lying awake, and my dad had fallen asleep, and, um, how to put this politely...he answered Nature's Call right there, and I, um, got rather soaked in the process. I know it was him because I was awake at the time. I was rather shocked, and, well, I didn't ask to go back up again in the year of '07.

Anyway, I hadn't thought of that while posting, but did think of it when I was telling my mom about what I posted. The little mishap notwithstanding (though something she certainly wouldn't think needed to be posted), my mom told me that if I even mentioned that my dad and I slept next to each other on the boat, people might think there's something totally inappropriate going on between the two of us.

So that's why I wondered if anyone thought I'd posted anything that would lead anyone to that impression. And that's just an example. But she said it could lead people to think something perverted is going on, and I'm hoping I've never led anyone to that conclusion.

[Aspigander]

Well, maybe it would be too personal for your mom, but not for you... you should feel free to say stuff that is on your mind.
I think I have a few screws loose myself :)

Well, true.

But I posted an example in my response to RR. What do you think?

[tgrimes]

Well, true.

But I posted an example in my response to RR. What do you think?

I think you are concerned about it if you are discussing it. You said this is an 'example' so there are other examples you are thinking of I am guessing. But I don't know what to make of it, every family has different boundaries as far as sleeping arrangements and ages... i don't think anything of sleeping with Theo, in fact sometimes I 'have to' when he is worried about aliens or when we stay at a motel, he lays in my bed and talks, but would not want to have to sleep with Gatlin.
Also, why the worry from your mom, did she have a discussion with him about this?

[Aspigander]

You said this is an 'example' so there are other examples you are thinking of I am guessing.

Well, I say example because I'm pretty sure my mom would cringe at a lot of stuff that I post here.

every family has different boundaries as far as sleeping arrangements and ages

(Trying *really* hard to put this very delicately)

She pointed out that 'sleeping' could mean more than one thing, and that someone might think that I was using the, um, alternative definition, and that if I was doing that with my dad, it would be perverse (which it would be, if said alternative definition applied, but it doesn't...she said she knows that but other people might not).

Also, why the worry from your mom, did she have a discussion with him about this?

About the sleeping arrangement, or the 'incident'? I'm assuming she did about the incident -- I debated with myself about whether or not to tell her what happened. But something was interesting, a couple nights prior I woke up with a fair amount of moisture, I asked my dad if it was condensation from the hatch above the v-bunk. He said yes, that happens a lot. But it didn't rain that night, and it just seemed like more than what condensation should have dripped onto the bunk. I wasn't awake when the moisture got there that time, but given that a couple nights later, when I was awake for the event (and it was definitely no condensation from the hatch), I had to wonder. Of course, I'd given him an out for the first incident, asking if it was condensation, if it was in fact the other thing, he probably wouldn't volunteer that, he'd just take the out that I gave him with my question. lol Well, IF the first incident that I was asleep for was the same as the one I was awake for, and it 'happens a lot', I thought there might be a medical problem going on, so decided I'd better bring it to my mom's attention. She said she'd talk to him about it -- I assume she had.

Honestly, had I been here on this forum when it happened, I'm sure my first thread upon returning home would be about the incident. This is a pretty supportive place, and I sure could have used that while wrestling with the decision of whether or not to tell my mom what happened.

ETA: BTW, my dad's episode is certainly something my mom would cringe to know I'm posting about -- but I think of greater concern to her was what people would think if I had mentioned that I was close enough to be in the line of fire in the first place. That the idea that we 'sleep' together, might lead people to think of the alternative definition. Frankly, if someone had assumed that, it really would seem to me to be a rather big leap of logic, but she said people could think that.

So basically, knowing that it's something I'd probably have posted had I thought of it while posting in the thread about the fishing/boat thing, or had I been on the forum around the time of the episode, I'm just wondering if I've ever posted anything here that would make anybody think of me in that kind of disturbing light.

[roadracer]

Is that all? heck if thats all you dont have any screws loose, lol :D, heck that all is NO big deal, I am serious, no big deal at all. I will explain this in two parts.

First, your dad wetting the bed, that is a medical problem, and I imagine your dad was trying to hide it because he was VERY VERY embaressed about it, and just dosent want anyone to know. I have the same problem, have had that problem my whole life.
Now it might be something like a new medical problem that was happening to your dad, like a prostate problem or something, or if he had any alcohol to drink it could have been that also, or any number of medical problems. If that is what is bothering you, you should talk to your dad about it, just to be sure he has been to the doctors to get checked out. I know people normaly dont talk about this stuff because it is very embaressing, I know, but it might be a relief for both of you to talk about it, and it seems this might be one reason why your dad has been putting off going fishing with you. I would hate to see something like that stoping you from going fishing together.

Okay, for the second thing, when you are out in the wilderness (like on a boat you are limited with space), the rules really dont apply for personal space, as there is not always enough room or you can only take so much gear. I have had many times were I was camping, backpacking, and sleeping in a cramped tent pretty much right up against the person beside me. One time I will never forget, I was with a friend (remember just friends) and he brought the tent. Well it was a two person backpacking tent, and I mean, we are both really skinny and we hardle fit in it. Okay for the part I dont tell anyone is that when I woke up in the morning he had his arm thrown over me. I know he didnt mean it (at least I pray that he didnt), but I was out of that tent in record time :eek:
There is a rule now that I go by when in a tent with someone else, you must have your sleeping bag fully zippered up :D, that way everyone keeps there limbs were they belong
And I make sure I take care of that first problem first, as no one like someone peeing on them.
anyway, to much information from me for sure :o, just dont want you to think you have any screws loose just from a incident like that

[peglem]

I agree with RR here, but want to point out that your mom probably does not know how open and nonjudgemental this forum is. That is probably information that most people would only share on a need-to-know basis. (like you did with your mom because you thought she might need to know if your dad had a medical problem). But, on this forum its okay to get up close and personal if you're comfortable with that, and we've certainly had discussions over stuff that was up closer and personaller than that!

Remember that "worlds collide" discussion we had when you wanted your mom to join the forum? This just reminded me of that.

[Aspigander]

Is that all? heck if thats all you dont have any screws loose, lol :D, heck that all is NO big deal, I am serious, no big deal at all. I will explain this in two parts.

First, your dad wetting the bed, that is a medical problem, and I imagine your dad was trying to hide it because he was VERY VERY embaressed about it, and just dosent want anyone to know. I have the same problem, have had that problem my whole life.
Now it might be something like a new medical problem that was happening to your dad, like a prostate problem or something, or if he had any alcohol to drink it could have been that also, or any number of medical problems. If that is what is bothering you, you should talk to your dad about it, just to be sure he has been to the doctors to get checked out. I know people normaly dont talk about this stuff because it is very embaressing, I know, but it might be a relief for both of you to talk about it, and it seems this might be one reason why your dad has been putting off going fishing with you. I would hate to see something like that stoping you from going fishing together.

Okay, for the second thing, when you are out in the wilderness (like on a boat you are limited with space), the rules really dont apply for personal space, as there is not always enough room or you can only take so much gear. I have had many times were I was camping, backpacking, and sleeping in a cramped tent pretty much right up against the person beside me. One time I will never forget, I was with a friend (remember just friends) and he brought the tent. Well it was a two person backpacking tent, and I mean, we are both really skinny and we hardle fit in it. Okay for the part I dont tell anyone is that when I woke up in the morning he had his arm thrown over me. I know he didnt mean it (at least I pray that he didnt), but I was out of that tent in record time :eek:
There is a rule now that I go by when in a tent with someone else, you must have your sleeping bag fully zippered up :D, that way everyone keeps there limbs were they belong
And I make sure I take care of that first problem first, as no one like someone peeing on them.
anyway, to much information from me for sure :o, just dont want you to think you have any screws loose just from a incident like that

Well, the first thing happened in '07, and I went to the boat in '08 (luckily, he had a dog crate in the v-bunk instead of the bunk he had it in in '07, so we just so happened to be in separate bunks). But pretty much, when the incident occurred, I just pawned it off on my mom and washed my hands of it.

I imagine your dad was trying to hide it because he was VERY VERY embaressed about it, and just dosent want anyone to know.

Well, lol, he didn't do a great job of hiding it...if he knew he had the problem, wouldn't it make sense to make sure beforehand that we were in separate bunks (it is possible, that boat will sleep four people comfortably...there's the v-bunk which sleeps two and then two other things that can be folded down into bunks that will each sleep one person comfortably)? We just both kind of prefer the v-bunk, so anytime I've gone to the boat with him, for years, we'd both been in the v-bunk. But if he wanted to hide a new problem you'd think he'd have made sure one of us was in another bunk, right? Kinda hard to hide it when the person next to you winds up getting sprayed, and sprayed pretty good at that.

I think what really weirded me out was when it happened, I was in such shock that it happened that I didn't know quite what to do, I think I figured he might not want me knowing about the problem, and I didn't exactly want him knowing I knew, so with that combination of the above three factors, I just tried to wiggle into as dry a spot as possible (which really wasn't feasible), and just lay there pretending to sleep. Then he wakes up and I guess realizes the problem, changes his clothes, and goes into another bunk (which is why I said he could have gone into another bunk beforehand). I think the thought crossed my mind that gee, you might check on your bunk mate to make sure she didn't get sprayed. Of course then it would have been obvious to both of us (it was anyway, he just didn't know it I don't think). I just kind of waited for him to get up for the morning and go outside before I took care of my part of the problem.

Anyway, it may have stopped us from fishing in '07, because I sure didn't ask to go back, and I imagine after he found out through my mom that I knew, he might not have been too enthusiastic to have me back anyway. lol But I was at the boat last summer, so I doubt the '07 incident is what stopped us from fishing.

As for the sleeping arrangement (which I think was the greater of my mom's concerns, what people would think of it, though the first part would certainly be classified as, like Peg said, a need-to-know basis thing), so you wouldn't automatically jump to conclusions? You wouldn't think there was something strange going on? That's what my mom was concerned about mainly, I think, why she said she hoped I didn't mention anything about us sleeping in the same bunk. I think she thought that people would get the idea that if a father and daughter slept together, at my age of then 23, that there must be something really perverted going on, because you just don't do that kind of thing. She also pointed out that 'sleeping' can have more than one definition and people might jump to the conclusion of the alternate. So you wouldn't jump to that conclusion?

[Aspigander]

I agree with RR here, but want to point out that your mom probably does not know how open and nonjudgemental this forum is. That is probably information that most people would only share on a need-to-know basis. (like you did with your mom because you thought she might need to know if your dad had a medical problem). But, on this forum its okay to get up close and personal if you're comfortable with that, and we've certainly had discussions over stuff that was up closer and personaller than that!

Remember that "worlds collide" discussion we had when you wanted your mom to join the forum? This just reminded me of that.

Yeah, could be a worlds collide thing.

I think too, that it's possible my mom may think if I give too much info, I might get people stalking me. I know she has told me that you have to be careful what you put out there on the internet before.

Remember when I posted more at length a few weeks ago about my female issues (or lack of them)? I know that would be something that my mom would fall over dead if she knew I posted. lol

Like I said though, medical problem I'm not sure was her main concern, I think it was a concern, but she made a bigger deal out of the fact we were in the same bunk, and if I shared that info, people might think I am/we are perverted. So you wouldn't assume any alternative meanings to the word 'sleep'?

[Keggy]

Ok I think you have some screws loose, maybe a whole bunch. Thank goodness you do. People who are wound to tight are hard to talk too, always take on the wrong meaning and get into fights over anything. (and, I know you don't think I know what you are talking about, but I do.)

Listen.. I don't know where that story belongs, but it is hysterical! Its not that your father did thats funny, (which it probably is anywho:rolleyes:) but its funny that you came and told us that in trying to discern if we would be riled by the two of you sharing a bed. Now thats funny.:D Your poor mother, I would love to lunch with her.:)

[Aspigander]

LOL! Good point there Keggy. I guess I might as well have just said: "I'm concerned that if I tell you this, you'll all think I'm something's wrong with me, so just to see if that's the case, here it is..." lol

Your poor mother, I would love to lunch with her.

Her gray hair population has seen an increase in the 25 years that I've been alive. lol

[Aspigander]

The really funny thing about it is that I wasn't going to post it here since my mom said it's a bad idea, my mom and I had that conversation several weeks ago, and I finally couldn't contain it any longer, because I needed to know if I've ever said anything that makes people think there's something wrong going on, and had to give an example. lol

[roadracer]

aspiG, your mom needs to lighten up a little, what I was trying to tell you is that in the situation of sleeping in a boat with other people, there is really nothing odd about sleeping beside other people, just like when your sleeping in a tent with others. I remember there was a couple years that my parents had this really small camper we went camping in. There was room for three people to sleep in it, one bed that sleeps two, and a bed that sleeps one. Since the bed that sleeps two was longer then the one that sleeps one, and because me and my bad are taller then my mom, me and my dad slept beside each other in the double bed and my mom slept in the single bed. Nothing strang about that at all.
Just saying that a person from the city who has never got out for a multy day treak threw the woods or a multiple day fishing trip, the people who never been on something like that might be wond tight or for what ever reason they might think it was sick that you slept beside your dad. BUT a person that has been camping or whatever wouldnt even think about it, and they know you make decisions to be as comftrable as posible while sleeping in places like that.

now the bed wetting part, that is why I said it might be a new problem, your dad was probably thinking it wasnt going to happen if he was sleeping beside you, and the rest, well I imagine he was pretty embaressed. I really cant think of many things that would be more embaressing then what happened to your dad. Maybe it only ever happened twice before, and you were lucky enough to be there on both ocassions, who knows. It sounds like you were so embaressed at what happened you just tryed to ignore it and slept all night in it, so imagine how embaressed your dad must have been.

In the end, the facts are that it was only some pee, that never hurt anyone, and up till then you were sleeping comftrable in the vee bunk, I still dont think there was anything that happened that was a big deal. It wasnt a big deal at all, and if it was me I would think about that time and be laughing about it. Unless your the person doing the peeing, then maybe it is not so funny, but I agree with Keggy, that story is pretty funny, it ranks up there with the Mili bee sting story... reminds me of the time I was in the car and my cousin was there with her dog sitting on her lap, a big fat cocker spaniel, and the dog craped on her lap :D, not so funny for the person being craped on, but I found it hilarious!

[Aspigander]

aspiG, your mom needs to lighten up a little, what I was trying to tell you is that in the situation of sleeping in a boat with other people, there is really nothing odd about sleeping beside other people, just like when your sleeping in a tent with others. I remember there was a couple years that my parents had this really small camper we went camping in. There was room for three people to sleep in it, one bed that sleeps two, and a bed that sleeps one. Since the bed that sleeps two was longer then the one that sleeps one, and because me and my bad are taller then my mom, me and my dad slept beside each other in the double bed and my mom slept in the single bed. Nothing strang about that at all.
Just saying that a person from the city who has never got out for a multy day treak threw the woods or a multiple day fishing trip, the people who never been on something like that might be wond tight or for what ever reason they might think it was sick that you slept beside your dad. BUT a person that has been camping or whatever wouldnt even think about it, and they know you make decisions to be as comftrable as posible while sleeping in places like that.


So you think it's basically my mom being wound too tight? I think what was bothering me, was I know that I would have probably posted that story had I thought about while posting the other thread, because sometimes I tend to post without thinking too much about whether or not I should post it (remember my having to dig a sideways turd out story that I got the impression was a little TMI for you?), and my mom said people would likely find that disturbing, so I couldn't help but wonder if I'd ever posted anything that anyone found disturbing like that.

So you think my mom was just a little overboard?

now the bed wetting part, that is why I said it might be a new problem, your dad was probably thinking it wasnt going to happen if he was sleeping beside you, and the rest, well I imagine he was pretty embaressed. I really cant think of many things that would be more embaressing then what happened to your dad. Maybe it only ever happened twice before, and you were lucky enough to be there on both ocassions, who knows. It sounds like you were so embaressed at what happened you just tryed to ignore it and slept all night in it, so imagine how embaressed your dad must have been.

Just out of curiosity, why would a medical problem be embarrassing? I guess that's a dumb question since, well, you're right I was pretty embarrassed, frankly I almost didn't say anything to my mom about it. But, if it's an unavoidable medical problem...

It wasnt a big deal at all, and if it was me I would think about that time and be laughing about it. Unless your the person doing the peeing, then maybe it is not so funny, but I agree with Keggy, that story is pretty funny, it ranks up there with the Mili bee sting story... reminds me of the time I was in the car and my cousin was there with her dog sitting on her lap, a big fat cocker spaniel, and the dog craped on her lap :D, not so funny for the person being craped on, but I found it hilarious!

LOL, you know what that reminds me of, that I laugh at now but certainly wasn't funny (for me or the dog involved) when it was happening? I was watching the dogs one time. My mom had this dog supplement to put in the food. Well one of the dogs, that was allowed to be loose in the house pretty much all the time, got into the supplement, which is basically a bunch of vitamins and minerals to put on the food. There was only a small amount left in the jar, but the normal dose is very very small, so he ate probably 2 or 3 days worth of the stuff. I was told that if he had any ill effects, it would likely be constipation...or, diarrhea...

And it was the latter. Now most of my parents' house is brown carpet. And everywhere he walked he was basically squirting brown mush on said brown carpet. Aaaand, a visually impaired person walking around without any shoes on. Bad combination. lol Luckily, we got through it.

[roadracer]

Just out of curiosity, why would a medical problem be embarrassing? I guess that's a dumb question since, well, you're right I was pretty embarrassed, frankly I almost didn't say anything to my mom about it. But, if it's an unavoidable medical problem...
well I am not sure I need to explain why it is embarrassing for most people, I think you can understand why it would be embarrassing for most people, but these things usualy dont bother me, as usualy no one is sleeping with me, and I just dont get to embarrassed about something that is relativly minor

I got to say eeewwwwww, eewww you steped in dog crap without shoes on, I would have vomit, actualy I would have vomit also if a dog craped on my lap, but it is pretty funny when it happens to someone else :D

and your constipation story, like most of the times when I say it is to much information, because it was gross, lol, you could have just said you were constipated, but instead you had to describe it, lol, leaving me going eewwww, thats gross, TMI, TMI. So there was really nothing wrong with what you said, nothing like a good poop story, the best appetite supressent available :p

[Aspigander]

I got to say eeewwwwww, eewww you steped in dog crap without shoes on, I would have vomit, actualy I would have vomit also if a dog craped on my lap, but it is pretty funny when it happens to someone else

I'm guessing you wouldn't have done so well if you were the one having to clean up the mush. Which I had to do pretty constantly for a couple days until the GI upset had gotten out of his system. Times like that I'm glad I have a really strong stomach.

So there was really nothing wrong with what you said, nothing like a good poop story, the best appetite supressent available

LOL, and it's free, and no side effects. :D

[Keggy]

I don't think your mom is wound too tight at all. I have experienced myself what happens when worlds collide here, it ain't pretty.

Its one thing when you say something embarassing about yourself, its a whole other story to out someone else though.

Even so.. you can have worlds collide even when just talking about yourself.