Is NT a bad thing here?

[tgrimes]

I am not sure, but it sure does sound like something bad lately.
Feeling crappy about it :(

[LIZARD]

Hmm...wouldn't know. ;) Maybe there's just a lot of pride here from those who aren't. I know my son is always saying he has "AWE-tism," so maybe it's something that just seems...odd to some.


*hug

LIZARD, who has never been NT and not sure I'd wanna be, either, 'cause I wouldn't know what to do with myself! :D :p

[tgrimes]

You haven't seen the thread titles? Getting to sound like autism speaks site. Is that still around?

[peglem]

I don't know anything about autism speaks, so I don't understand the reference. But, I don't think anyone is thinking or suggesting that NT is bad.:confused: I'm not understanding why you feel crappy about the thread titles.

[Nikabee]

I'm giggling uncontrollably at "AWE-tism"! :) That's so cute!

I'm not familiar with autism speaks either. But here's my take on it: whenever we are making comparisons, labels are involved. So, since there have been a lot of posts involving comparisons, we have to label NT or ASD. It's just an either/or breakdown. Personally, I haven't felt offended by the label, but I have noticed it used a lot. Heck, I use it too.

Although, I personally don't think that NT is a very accurate label, really. What exactly is "neuro-typical"? There's no such thing, IMO! lol We're all unique individuals, so maybe the label should be changed to include the word "spectrum" for us too? :D *shrugs* I'm just being silly, I guess!

[LIZARD]

You haven't seen the thread titles? Getting to sound like autism speaks site. Is that still around?

I thought Autism Speaks was "fighting for a cure." :rolleyes: They don't "speak" for me or my son!


LIZARD

[roadracer]

I am not sure, but it sure does sound like something bad lately.
Feeling crappy about it :(

I dont know what your saying, but I hope you are not saying that you dont want us here. There are two aspies and a autie here, and around a hundred parents, so parents are the majority here, not sure if you want it to be only parents?

How could NT be a bad thing? If you dont like it I will trade you, give you the asd and I will take the nt, sound like a deal? (well really I dont know if you are NT or not, will need some testing first)

In any case I dont go around saying I am proud of my autism or that all normal people should bend over backwards to make it easy for me, but I also dont go around saying autism should be cured. I also dont see anyone else saying any of that here. I think this is a great group of people because even if a subject like that does pop up we can share our views and move past it without going to war on each other. If you dont know what I am talking about then stop by a site with all aspies/auties ;) on those sites just mentioning 'autism speaks' will cause a full war to erupt, and 'cure' is a dirty word that will get you banned for life. (no joking, some site will ban you for starting a cure debate)
This site has a variety of people, not just people from one group, there are people from every part of the spectrum of life.

BTW, anyone wanting to find out about autism speaks can watch there popular video on youtube and draw your own conclusion, but I have to agree that they dont speak for me, and I dont like there message, as my opinion is that they only try to get pity from people to get more money, they could actually care less about educating people about autism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMMwG7RrFQ

[Nikabee]

Well RR, I will say that I NEED you here! ;) One of the reasons that I chose this site over others was because there were adult aspies and auties that posted here. We parents can talk about theories and possible treatments and interventions. We can share success stories and offer support to one another when things are tough. But what we CAN'T do is explain what it's like to be inside our kids' heads and bodies. That's why we need you. And I really like the give-and-take that happens on this site. Those of you on the spectrum to can explain what it's like to have ASD and we can also help explain how 'the rest of us' think.

[roadracer]

Well RR, I will say that I NEED you here! ;) One of the reasons that I chose this site over others was because there were adult aspies and auties that posted here. We parents can talk about theories and possible treatments and interventions. We can share success stories and offer support to one another when things are tough. But what we CAN'T do is explain what it's like to be inside our kids' heads and bodies. That's why we need you. And I really like the give-and-take that happens on this site. Those of you on the spectrum to can explain what it's like to have ASD and we can also help explain how 'the rest of us' think.

I am not going anywhere, grimes is a nice person, so I really dont think she meant it like that, but I was just making sure. She has been really helpful to me, especialy with the advice she gave me to work on trying to stop my biting, and it really helped.

[milivica]

What the heck are you thinking Grimey? NT is an abbreviation for the neurology you were born with, not who you are.

What I love about your posts is there's not a lot of fancy coding, that I cannot decode. You're clear, and you just don't know how much I appreciate that! Gives me at least a chance not to screw up accidentally. I always love your posts cause I know what the heck you're saying and feeling.

Which is why I can tell you for sure, you're off your feed, being NT isn't a bad thing here. Couldn't be, it just is what it is. Not good or bad.

I love nt's, I love asd's, I love all people that want to be good and help others and think everyone here feels the same. No one here is a neurology snob.

[Keggy]

No one here is a neurology snob.


Today at precisely 12:01 "NS" was born. :rolleyes:

[Kristen (ColeysMom)]

That's funny Keggy! :D

I'm lost about the original question...Grimey can you clarify?

[milivica]

NS, lol! Good one.

[tgrimes]

Okay, thank you, everyone that replied... I think I get it now.
And yes, perhaps a little 'OFF MY FEED?' ... gonna have to google that one. :)

[tgrimes]

Dam**t MILI that means off my meds? Are you messing with me?

[Aspigander]

I'm guessing Mili means she thinks you must not be feeling well by your post. She's a critter person, and often when a pet goes "off its feed", or doesn't eat quite as much as normal, if at all, it generally means a problem.

Am I on the right track Mili?

[tgrimes]

Aspigander -
Awww, you're too nice, trying to cover for her. :)
(Now where did you find that explanation?)

[Aspigander]

The animals going off feed explanation? I have pets. Experience.

[tgrimes]

Oh, Okay. I got that other answer off Yahoo q's. But seriously, I never heard that before and I hang around a stable frequently.

[milivica]

Dam**t MILI that means off my meds? Are you messing with me?

Baawawaawwaawaaaa!!!!!!!! I had no idea it meant off your meds. OMG that's funny.

Yeah AspieG was correct, it's a term you'd use with animals though I didn't really think about it. I meant are you crazy or are you kidding or are you sippin the sap (as my country dh puts it).

Off your meds, omg that cracks me up imagining you thinking that's what I was saying.

[tgrimes]

Baawawaawwaawaaaa!!!!!!!! I had no idea it meant off your meds. OMG that's funny.

Yeah AspieG was correct, it's a term you'd use with animals though I didn't really think about it. I meant are you crazy or are you kidding or are you sippin the sap (as my country dh puts it).

Off your meds, omg that cracks me up imagining you thinking that's what I was saying.

Yeah, just trying to shake you up, but you always know when I'm messing with you.

[milivica]

I didn't know you were messing with me, I thought you really thought I was asking if you were off your meds.

Ok, well now I know you were messing with me. Darn, it was pretty funny imagining you ready to kick by cyberbutt!

So, are you off your meds?
Kidding.
Lisa

[Prot]

Given the wide ranging nature of the autism spectrum are NTS necessarily always that far removed from non NTs especially when you throw in the number of people who may have a varying number of autism spectrum traits without meeting the full criteria for an autism spectrum diagnosis?

[tgrimes]

Given the wide ranging nature of the autism spectrum are NTS necessarily always that far removed from non NTs especially when you throw in the number of people who may have a varying number of autism spectrum traits without meeting the full criteria for an autism spectrum diagnosis?


Sounds like another rhetorical question, but answering anyway because it brings up another point... anyone here with a mental illness can possibly be non-NT but many people steadfastly defend autism as being a non mental illness. I always thought that was kind of weird too, since there is sometimes both.

[Prot]

Sounds like another rhetorical question, but answering anyway because it brings up another point... anyone here with a mental illness can possibly be non-NT but many people steadfastly defend autism as being a non mental illness. I always thought that was kind of weird too, since there is sometimes both.


I had not intended it to be a rhetorical question but can see why it could be seen as such.

Re autism and mental illness: (1) Does the fact that autism/aspergers sometimes occurs with a mental illness by itself define autism/aspergers as a mental illness ? I would say no.
(2)What constitutes 'mental illness' ie what criteria have to come into play for a person to be mentally ill and does autism/aspergers satisfy those criteria?

[tgrimes]

RE: #1, No... this is considered neurological disorder.
RE: #2, In the US, anything that's classified as a mental illness instead. If you look at the ASD 'umbrella' over all the usually existing symptoms or comorbids, many of them fall under the category of mental illness rather than neurological function. i.e., OCD is classified as a mental illness, but is a very common characteristic in ASD ... and so sometimes it can be the primary debilitating problem, even thought the primary Dx is ASD.

[Nikabee]

:D That was the point of my silly remark! LOL There's no such thing as 'typical' really. I don't have a diagnosis of any kind and I'm qwerky as heck. ;)