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Aspigander
11-02-2008, 12:16 PM
Has anyone seen this (http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php)? It's a quiz to see how likely one might be to have Asperger's Syndrome. It is, of course, not an official diagnosis (but I have one anyway), but is pretty interesting.

Below is an image of my results (not entirely sure what the image means, but it's from my results).

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=78&p2=69&p3=79&p4=96&p5=93&p6=79&p7=60&p8=75&p9=48&p10=29&p11=41&p12=36

The Pogue
11-02-2008, 08:22 PM
Yohttp://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=28&p2=49&p3=50&p4=56&p5=48&p6=47&p7=46&p8=53&p9=28&p10=23&p11=27&p12=58ur Aspie score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 100 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

milivica
11-03-2008, 01:15 AM
It says:

Your Aspie score: 60 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 156 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

Not sure I understand what it all means, but I like these kinds of quizzes, I wouldn't count on this being too darn accurate, but it's fun - a little long, but fun.

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=49&p2=25&p3=18&p4=59&p5=73&p6=34&p7=24&p8=15&p9=27&p10=12&p11=31&p12=28

mrsdoubtfyre
11-03-2008, 05:11 AM
I found this quiz interesting. It reminds me of a personality inventory designed
by Dr. Oldham, which explains how different people react to each other and
the environment:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Personality-Self-Portrait-Think-Work/dp/0553373935/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225703193&sr=1-2
This is really really a good book, you cannot fudge the test, it is long and similar to the MMPI.

This quiz has divisions in it too, which remind me of the "styles" that Dr. Oldham describes in his book. I keep coming back to this book, over the years and find things I missed other times around! It is very readable, and not technical...so everyone can use it and enjoy it.

Here is my test: Mostly NT
My son took it, and was more equally divided in NT/aspie than I was. He appears to be a mixture of both. (and does have ADHD which is on the spectrum).
His score was:
Your Aspie score: 85 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 113 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits

This is my husband's score---very interesting. (I wish my son had saved his graph now!)
He was tagged as ADD (no hyperactivity) by the testers who did my son's ADHD evaluation.
http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=65&p2=53&p3=76&p4=72&p5=43&p6=42&p7=11&p8=41&p9=15&p10=7&p11=59&p12=34
Your Aspie score: 79 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 126 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

The Pogue
11-03-2008, 08:19 AM
Milivica -

I'm more aspie than you are nyah nyah

;)

I suspect that the majority of the items contributing to my "aspie leanings" are attributable to my ADHD - hyperness, fiddling, mannerisms, attention problems, impatience, sensory issues, etc.

Kristen (ColeysMom)
11-03-2008, 09:24 AM
Heres' mine:

Your Aspie score: 51 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 159 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=30&p2=37&p3=23&p4=42&p5=44&p6=16&p7=24&p8=24&p9=9&p10=20&p11=14&p12=22

I just gotta laugh...

Sometimes the stuff Mili says has me examining whether I'm Aspie...

LOL, we are just similar!:eek:

See the forest through the trees much!? LOL!:p

Thanks for posting, this was fun!

mrsdoubtfyre
11-03-2008, 12:05 PM
"HUNTING" refers to?

Is this a motivational behavior, perhaps?

milivica
11-03-2008, 04:13 PM
Milivica -

I'm more aspie than you are nyah nyah

;)

I suspect that the majority of the items contributing to my "aspie leanings" are attributable to my ADHD - hyperness, fiddling, mannerisms, attention problems, impatience, sensory issues, etc.

Yeah I noticed that. I'm so used to 'being aspie' that I have to say, it was like a blow to my ego to get those results. I think I've almost prided myself in my aspergers, is that possible? Like I think somehow I went from accepting myself, to accepting my aspergers, to taking pride in my aspergers, then pride in being the weirdest or differentest woman here. If I'm not the odd egg, then how am I significant anymore? Weird huh. But I'm already over it mostly. I mean, I'm still the same person before the test and after the test. no matter how aspie or nt I am, I'm probably still the weirdest, hee hee.

mrsdoubtfyre
11-03-2008, 04:33 PM
Yeah I noticed that. I'm so used to 'being aspie' that I have to say, it was like a blow to my ego to get those results. I think I've almost prided myself in my aspergers, is that possible? Like I think somehow I went from accepting myself, to accepting my aspergers, to taking pride in my aspergers, then pride in being the weirdest or differentest woman here. If I'm not the odd egg, then how am I significant anymore? Weird huh. But I'm already over it mostly. I mean, I'm still the same person before the test and after the test. no matter how aspie or nt I am, I'm probably still the weirdest, hee hee.

Well, Mili....maybe you were misdiagnosed? How long ago was that anyway?

You could just have an idiosyncratic personality style with creative traits.

Did you LEARN the empathy you demonstrate on this forum? Or did you already have it. If the latter, perhaps you ARE NT after all! Just my opinion.

milivica
11-03-2008, 11:13 PM
Well, considering I was institutionalized as a child for various diagnosis like 'socially retarded' and 'severe depression' and 'psychosis' and even my fav 'schitzophrenia' which I probably still can't even spell, I'd have to say a big yes on really being autistic. I was not the flapping nonverbal autistic, and the word asperger's wasn't invented yet...God I'm old!!! But yes, I'd have to say a big y-e-s on being sure I was on the spectrum. Even had I not been formally diagnosed, I am sure I was very much on the spectrum. Though it's first now and for about the last year or so, I am crystal clear about what autism is, what it isn't, and with the help of my consultant what to do about it.

The 'empathy' I show on the forum, and showed on the forum even 8 years ago when I was very much on the spectrum, was due to it all being verbal here. I, like every autistic I've ever met, have a generous amount of empathy - when - I finally get the chance to borrow anothers perspective. Actually I think asd's have more empathy when we do feel it, cause we're not burned out on feeling for others and getting a smack in the face for it as happens so often in nt's lives.

Trust me, empathy is not a choice, or sign of good or kind character, or sign you have or do not have autism, empathy is neurological. It is what happens when your mirror neuron system is 'on'. When someone with autism can borrow your perspective, can imagine how you feel, they will be as empathetic as any nt. So remember, empathy is not something a person elects to have, you can't turn it on or shut it off (without teaching yourself to, as a doctor in an ER would have to). In order to raise my hand, certain neural circuits must light up in my brain to allow me to raise it. If you watch me raise my hand the same neural circuits that light up in my brain, will light up in YOUR brain even though you are not raising your hand. That is how people imagine how others feel, how non autistic people borrow perspectives of others so easily. Empathy=mirror neuron system engaging.

Now, what you choose to do with the empathy is a choice. You can be a Mother Theresa or a con artist with your empathy aka properly functioning mirror neuron system.

Aspigander
11-04-2008, 12:42 AM
Mili, as you were explaining empathy, a question just popped into my head. I'm not sure if it has to do with empathy or not.

While I can say I *do* have emotions, I don't think they're quite as vivid as most. In fact, when I first started seeing my psychologist, she explained to me that if you imagine emotions as colors, an NT might have them in very vivid and bright colors, while an aspie will have them, but the colors might be more "faded". It seems to be true in my case.

When something big happens, such as a death in the family (human or pet), I may feel the associated emotions to varying degrees (depending on how close I was to the relative/animal), but never to the point that some seem to and never the point of losing a pretty stoic appearance (I generally don't have to *try* to be stoic...I just am).

When I was informed that my paternal grandfather had passed away, for example, others would have felt pretty strongly that that was a big thing, but the level of emotion I experience might be what an NT would experience if their picnic had been rained out.

Does that make sense? Is that an empathy/mirror neuron thing, or something else?

milivica
11-04-2008, 01:33 AM
Ok, if the grandfather of say a 1 year old died, the child would not be considered to have 'faded' emotions because she didn't react as strongly as others, and she wouldn't be considered cold or stoic for not crying at the funeral. The emotional equipment she needs to be more 'colorful' is not yet developed. You are not faded, she was wrong. You can't be faded in emotion, when your emotion/social system hasn't even had the chance to grow and bloom yet.

If you think of neurological development like a plant with roots, well you have all the seeds of the development you need to gain socially, but for some reason you have a blanket over the seeds blocking out the water and sunlight, unlike an nt. Neurological development (gained in RDI) removes the blanket, so finally they can grow. And from personal experience, I can promise you are not too old and there is no window of development you've missed. That's old doctrine or dogma or what ever it's called. Also, due to your 25 years of experience in life, once your 'new' seeds grow, you will not be forever 25 years behind your peers.

In terms of your neurological wiring, most parts of you are 25, but some parts are not even 6 months old, they are undeveloped. I don't want to give you the idea I'm calling you a 1 year old baby. Anything I say to or about you, applies to me, and applies to my son so is never said with an insulting or condescending attitude. Once you begin to develop the very basics, such as the m/a relationship, so many things are going to develop and grow every day (just naturally, all by itself!) you will be blown away with how easy life is. I'm serious, it's crazy what a little neural development can do.

I hope that sort of answered your question.

lisa6wks
11-04-2008, 07:10 PM
Let me see if this works
http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=54&p2=51&p3=55&p4=57&p5=85&p6=65&p7=40&p8=34&p9=23&p10=54&p11=65&p12=49

Aspie score: 104 of 200
NT score: 122 of 200
You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits


I was surprised!
Lisa

Keggy
11-06-2008, 02:00 PM
http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=93&p2=84&p3=90&p4=74&p5=57&p6=59&p7=44&p8=68&p9=45&p10=46&p11=64&p12=79


Your Aspie score: 138 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 79 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

GinaMarie
11-07-2008, 01:33 PM
http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=87&p2=92&p3=57&p4=85&p5=92&p6=76&p7=75&p8=73&p9=32&p10=55&p11=76&p12=72


Your Aspie score: 150 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 67 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Mother's Heart
11-07-2008, 04:37 PM
http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=37&p2=57&p3=33&p4=73&p5=67&p6=27&p7=16&p8=39&p9=17&p10=30&p11=25&p12=25

Your Aspie score: 66 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 131 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

Keggy
11-08-2008, 12:05 PM
You know, I know I am a bit aspie but I thougt as an adult I was much better than when I was younger. I didn't expect to score so high.

mom2nfautism
11-14-2008, 12:41 PM
here is mine........ (bea) http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=11&p2=18&p3=15&p4=49&p5=37&p6=21&p7=27&p8=30&p9=7&p10=9&p11=15&p12=7

Your Aspie score: 43 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 152 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical






and here is Glo's....

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=94&p2=96&p3=99&p4=57&p5=99&p6=89&p7=85&p8=90&p9=95&p10=74&p11=83&p12=89 (she has been dx with neurofibromatosis, adhd, autism)


Your Aspie score: 186 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 26 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie



I will test and post my other daughters later.. this is cool... here is my oldest daughter who has been dx with neurofibromatosis, adhd and autism....

http://www.rdos.net/eng/poly12b.php?p1=61&p2=86&p3=75&p4=85&p5=99&p6=62&p7=81&p8=82&p9=64&p10=73&p11=84&p12=76

Beelzebabe
11-23-2008, 06:14 PM
Hi. I usually post over at the chronic pain forum but I have to jump in here. My 33-year-old daughter has classic (Kanner's) autism and I've seen it all by this point, and then some.

This and other online "Aspie" (I hate that term) quizzes have made a massive contribution to the circus-like atmosphere around autism today. Between the murky, vague diagnostic criteria in DSM-IIIR and DSM-IV and this kind of self-diagnostic "tool", it's no wonder everybody and their dog is somewhere on "the spectrum". Come to think of it, I wonder when domestic animals will start being labeled as somewhere on "the spectrum". It's gotten THAT BAD.

Asperger's is very real and because my daughter has always been in either special ed or specialized day programs, I've known plenty of her friends and fellow students with AS. But, just as Leo Kanner's very elegant and specific criteria were dumped in favor of something that can include virtually anyone with any symptom that looks like it might sorta kinda perhaps be something like autism, Hans Asperger's equally specific criteria have been reduced to online quizzes. Self-diagnoses of Asperger's has overtaken clinicial diagnoses by at least 3 to 1.

I'm not saying self-checks are not useful as a starting point. The problem is that AS has become a vanity diagnosis in some sectors (don't believe me? take a look at some of the online communities). The perception is out there that AS is cool. And just like anything that becomes a fad disorder du jour, the fad diminishes and demeans the real struggles and battles of those who are profoundly affected in every area of their lives.

Not only that, but it opens the door for pseudoscience and data cooking.

On a more positive note, to those with younger kids and teens - my daughter continues to meet developmental milestones out of the blue. What the average child would achieve at age 11, for example, she might have met at age 30. The development is all over the place, unpredictable, and mysterious. Just like autism itself. There's always hope for change and growth, but I've found that the less I've interfered with her unique development and the pace of it, the better she's done. Intervention is not always a good thing; in fact, it is often counterproductive.

Expect a LOT of changes in DSM-V. The chaos of epidemic/vaccines/spectrum etc. etc. is an area of great focus for the APA in making revisions and refining diagnostic criteria.

ETA: I did take the quiz and according to *them*, I have both AS and NT traits. Be it noted that I come from a family of artists, musicians, writers, and assorted other right-brain weirdos. I'd be willing to bet that every creative type on the planet would score high on the AS quizzes, and it has zippo to do with AS. Context is important.


Allie