Food Allergies, Neurology, Recipies

[AncientWolf]

I realize that this is a neurology discussion and support site. However, I have been a member of this before the crash for just over a year and have noticed in a couple forums requests for recipies from people who need special diets (such as for food allergies or for the ketogenic diet or similar diets or even for those with illnesses that keep them from being able to safely cook a complicated meal.)

I propose that a forum be created called "Recipie Exchange". I think within that forum we could create a thread requesting recipies for our specific needs. I think this would make the lives of many members of this board MUCH easier.

What do the mods think of this idea, what do the rest of you think of this idea?


Namaste

Daniel

[loisba]

Sounds like a good idea to me, Daniel.

Namaste! Y buenos dias, tambien!
Hugs,

[Lara]

I think that's an excellent idea as well.

Over the years lots of different forums have done this. SOS and Linder's Card Shop (which isn't really activated yet because we have no graphics) had some incredible recipe threads over the years. I always go read in Gluten Sensitivity and Celiac Disease Forum too because even though I have neither, I'm totally amazed by the amount of useful tips and tricks I've learned from there.

[annelb]

I am very active on the gluten sensitivity/celiac disease (GS/CD)forum and feel that the gluten free recipes need to stay a part of this forum. Eliminating gluten (wheat, barley, rye and oats) is the medical treatment for GS/CD. There is no medicine other than diet change. Our recipes are an integral part of this forum. If you come to the GS/CD forum you will find that many of the posts are about finding, cooking and eating GF foods.

We still hope that the old database will be restored so we can recover all the recipes that were posted.
Anne

[Lara]

Just to clarify after annelb's response...

I wasn't suggesting moving anything from GS/CD forum. I just was saying that I read there and have found very helpful tips. (son on autism spectrum). :)

Just felt that my earlier post might have needed some clarification. I took it for granted that people would realize that they would be specifically dedicated to that forum. I really took it that AncientWolf was speaking about neurology-specific recipes, not just regular cooking recipes. Sorry ... every time I go to post something today I am called away from computer for some minor drama so apologize if my earlier post wasn't clear.

[annelb]

Lara, glad that you have found the recipes on the GS/CD forum to be helpful. We have really has some great cooks post their recipes and you don't have to be GF to enjoy them. :D
Anne

[AncientWolf]

Well, I just thought it would be useful to have all the recipes in one place. I know many people in the epilepsy forum over the years are on the ketogenic diet or other similar diets and many people have food allergies and the like that don't fit directly into any of the forums but which may exascerbate their condition. But if y'all don't like the idea I understand that I guess. Sorry to intrude.

Daniel

[Lara]

I think it's a great idea. Different threads could be used for different purposes. I understand why the GSCD ones are kept on that forum 'cause they've been doing that for years and have so many of them, but don't see why it wouldn't work for other types of diets, like keto diet or specific allergy diets.

Your post wasn't intrusive at all. I just think the site is still fairly quiet for some reason and people just aren't posting as they used to.

[jcc]

I think this might be a good idea, too.

I wonder if we could have a Recipe Exchange Forum with subforums for each 'type' of diet?


Recipes

Paleolithic
Gluten Free
Gluten Free/Casein Free
Keto
Other Special Diets (food allergy)



What other types?

Is the subforum idea one that might work? Mods/ Administrators?

We could always sticky a link to the individual recipe subforums into any forum that would like to do that.

Any more interest on this? Is there a possibility of subforums? Within a subforum we could probably sticky main recipe categories up near the top (like Main Dishes, Vegetable, Desserts, Breads, Breakfast, etc.), and then allow for other discussion threads to come and go, unstickied. Since we haven't yet started on rebuilding a recipe thread on the GS/CD forum, I'd (personally..speaking for myself) be willing to try out a recipe forum, if it had subforums to give the various types of diets their own space. It might work quite well.

Does anyone else think this might work???

Cara

[David Hosobuchi]

From what I understand, this would be a forum to benefit all at BrainTalk Communities. A sub-forum would be located within another forum, making it really only useful to that particular forum. This deserves to stand out. Perhaps even regroup forums dealing with similar topics into a category of forums dealing with Everyday Quality of Life Issues, or something to that effect?

Thoughts?

David

[mrsdoubtfyre]

a forum titled "Food for Thought".

We could have a moderator expand it to include recipes.

example
Food for Thought/Recipes and Cooking tips

[David Hosobuchi]

Well, it would take more than a moderator, but it could be done....

Though as a retired chef, "Food for Thought" just doesn't make me hungry.

Anyone like "BrainTalk Community Kitchen or Cafe"???

David

[AncientWolf]

From what I understand, this would be a forum to benefit all at BrainTalk Communities. A sub-forum would be located within another forum, making it really only useful to that particular forum. This deserves to stand out. Perhaps even regroup forums dealing with similar topics into a category of forums dealing with Everyday Quality of Life Issues, or something to that effect?

Thoughts?

David


I like your thoughts on the issue David. Sounds like a good way to go about it. Thanks for your attention to this idea. Braintalk Community Cafe sounds good to me. How about others?

Namaste,

Daniel

[jcc]

From what I understand, this would be a forum to benefit all at BrainTalk Communities. A sub-forum would be located within another forum, making it really only useful to that particular forum. This deserves to stand out. Perhaps even regroup forums dealing with similar topics into a category of forums dealing with Everyday Quality of Life Issues, or something to that effect?

I'm trying to envision how this would work.

I like BrainTalk Community Kitchen or Cafe. I have a slight preference toward Kitchen, but not enough to really care which way that would fall.

Within a BrainTalk Community Cafe or Kitchen forum....I would like to see clear areas for specialty diet types. Could we have general recipes in the main Cafe/Kitchen forum that would benefit everyone who isn't on a special diet, and then subforums for specialty diets? (GF, GF/CF, SCD, Keto, Paleo, multiple allergy (which might use a few different categories like egg free, corn free, etc), etc).

Is there a limit to how many subforums there can be? A sub-forum is just an additional related forum within a forum, right?

Each forum (main and sub-forums) could start with stickied threads for recipe categories like below that people could just post recipes into?
Main Dishes
Salads and Vegetables
Breads/Pasta/Rice
Desserts
Appetizers/Snacks
Beverages


I can tell you from our experience on GS/CD that the most difficult part is keeping the chit chat out of the recipe threads. It can sometimes be useful to discuss a certain recipe to clarify it, but it makes it very cumbersome for others to search through a really long recipe thread to find the recipes, with all the chit chat in it...which inevitably turns off subject into talk about lots of things. So... it is good to have threads for both. A place to ask general questions, talk about recipes and other things, etc, but to also have a place where just the actual recipes get listed.

What we had done on the GS/CD forum in the past was to create an index page thread that we stickied, and it listed categories/names of recipes, with links to each recipe by exact post. Then we also had threads for the general recipe categories, where we could discuss whatever, but just the actual recipe got linked into the index. It was a huge task for the couple of people who managed it, but it really worked nicely. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well enough for anyone to understand how it worked.

We could do that again on the GS/CD forum if we can't figure a way to incorporate special dietary needs into a main recipe forum.

I really don't think it would work (at least for the GS/CD group) to have gf recipes just intermingled amongst all the other recipes within a single forum... which is why I was thinking sub-forums might work to hold the specialty diet recipes. If not, we could go back to our old way of doing things on GS/CD, and just provide a link to our GF recipe index in the new BrainTalk Kitchen/Cafe forum.

Cara

[AncientWolf]

I'm trying to envision how this would work.

I like BrainTalk Community Kitchen or Cafe. I have a slight preference toward Kitchen, but not enough to really care which way that would fall.

Within a BrainTalk Community Cafe or Kitchen forum....I would like to see clear areas for specialty diet types. Could we have general recipes in the main Cafe/Kitchen forum that would benefit everyone who isn't on a special diet, and then subforums for specialty diets? (GF, GF/CF, SCD, Keto, Paleo, multiple allergy (which might use a few different categories like egg free, corn free, etc), etc).

Is there a limit to how many subforums there can be? A sub-forum is just an additional related forum within a forum, right?

Each forum (main and sub-forums) could start with stickied threads for recipe categories like below that people could just post recipes into?
Main Dishes
Salads and Vegetables
Breads/Pasta/Rice
Desserts
Appetizers/Snacks
Beverages


I can tell you from our experience on GS/CD that the most difficult part is keeping the chit chat out of the recipe threads. It can sometimes be useful to discuss a certain recipe to clarify it, but it makes it very cumbersome for others to search through a recipe thread with all the chit chat in it...which inevitably turns off subject into talk about lots of things. So... it is good to have threads for both. A place to ask general questions, talk about recipes and needs, etc, but to also have a place where just the actual recipes get listed.

What we had done on the GS/CD forum in the past was to create an index page thread that we stickied, and it listed categories/names of recipes, with links to each recipe by exact post. Then we also had threads for the general recipe categories, where we could discuss whatever, but just the actual recipe got linked into the index. It was a huge task for the couple of people who managed it, but it really worked nicely. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it well enough for anyone to understand how it worked.

We could do that again on the GS/CD forum if we can't figure a way to incorporate special dietary needs into a main recipe forum.

I really don't think it would work (at least for the GS/CD group) to have gf recipes just intermingled amongst all the other recipes within a single forum... which is why I was thinking sub-forums might work to hold the specialty diet recipes. If not, we could go back to our old way of doing things on GS/CD, and just provide a link to our GF recipe index in the new BrainTalk Kitchen/Cafe forum.

Cara

I like the idea of having stickied threads in the forum that are *just* for recipies and each thread being labled for whatever specific dietary need (such as gluten free, ketogenic, nut free, easy for the disabled, etc) and keeping the discussion about the recipies and related things in other threads. I think that would keep it less confusing so people with a specific need can just look at the stickied thread with the recipes that meet that need. I also like the index idea, but I don't know how feasible that is for the admin or if some of us regular members would have to keep up the index. I definately would not wish to take away from the GS/CD forum and understand some people's concerns about that. I just know that people can have a variety of special dietary needs, especially those with neurological conditions, and it would be useful to have it all under one forum.

I am fortunate that I do not have many special dietary needs and am adept at adjusting recipes to meet what few conditions I do have to watch (I'm allergic to onions and mushrooms). However, I have seen on many forums where people have special dietary requirements (such as a dish simple and quick for someone with uncontrolled epilepsy to minimize risk, or those on the ketogenic diet or with food allergies) and have had a hard time finding recipes to suit them. I would love to have a place where I and others with cooking skills could contribute some creative ideas to help those people avoid the things they need to avoid. I potentially even see a thread with low fat and/or low sodium recipes for people who need to watch their intake of those (which really, most of us need to anyways).

I love all the input and thought people are putting into this. It shows that people here at Braintalk can be caring, thinking, and practical people. I know this is something that will benefit a lot of people here at Braintalk.

Namaste,

Daniel

[jcc]

The index is a bit of a pain to pull off, and I don't think that part would work on a general recipe forum. It does take someone commited to the effort and if they ever leave...it all sort of falls apart. We've also just kept main categories of threads in an index (stickied), so if you click on "Main Dishes"... up pops the Main Dishes thread. That only needs to be set up once, and it helps add some order.

If the whole subforum idea is too complicated or there isn't enough interest for it on a general recipe forum, maybe we could try a subforum out on the GS/CD just to hold our own recipes. I know we have too many to contain in a single thread, but I can see how that might work for more casual use.

Cara

[Rabbit]

My impression from the Epilepsy forum is that while recipes are significant, it's not solely dietary requirements at issue, but also LIFESTYLE NEEDS. Dealing with frequent or unexpected seizures together with cooking can be a recipe for disaster and injury, and there is a need for recipes that accomodate safety issues (whether that be by means of simple recipes, technology, or cooking tools and techniques). I cannot imagine this is unique to people with seizures, either.

my two cents,
Rabbit

[jcc]

You make a good point, Rabbit, and certainly those types of concerns could be discussed there as well, and even have stickied threads if beneficial to do so.

GS/CD has some types of things like that, too, in terms of "how to" avoid cross contamination, properties of substitute flours, and other 'non-recipe' kitchen info.

I'd imagine there are also lots of how to's for those first learning to maneuver a kitchen in a wheelchair, etc.

It makes me think the Food for Thought forum could also probably just merge into the kitchen/cafe forum... as those types of topics would make sense to be there too.

I think the kitchen forum, whatever format, should accomodate all of those things. I also think there is added benefit when we combine people from various forums because what is useful for one group may also be useful for another....and we get to meet some new people in the process.

Cara

[AncientWolf]

My impression from the Epilepsy forum is that while recipes are significant, it's not solely dietary requirements at issue, but also LIFESTYLE NEEDS. Dealing with frequent or unexpected seizures together with cooking can be a recipe for disaster and injury, and there is a need for recipes that accomodate safety issues (whether that be by means of simple recipes, technology, or cooking tools and techniques). I cannot imagine this is unique to people with seizures, either.

my two cents,
Rabbit

I agree Rabbit. That's what I meant in my last post when I said, "easy for the disabled." Whether it's a physical limitation of not being able to stand too long or something along those lines, or like some raised in the epilepsy thread "cooking without burning the house down." That thread was amongst many threads that convinced me of the need for such a forum. I agree it's an issue that likely occurs for more people than just those with uncontrolled, frequent seizures that happen without warning. I'm glad you put in your words of agreement. I'm greatful for your post because it clarifies that specific issue further as well. Thank you for your input.

If an index of recipes is too difficult (and I figured it probably would be) then an index of threads might be more feasible so that a person can just look up "wheat free" or "quick and simple" or whatever their specific need and be directed to that thread....as I believe someone else suggested.

I don't know how subforums work, but if that seems the easier way to go that could work too. I was just under the thinking that having it all in one forum would be easier to browse through and for people with a need that hasn't been covered to make a request for recipes without having to create a new sub-forum each time a new need is brought up. Honestly, I am more concerned with just getting the forum going no matter which way it's decided to be handled. Since it is many of you who will benefit most from this forum I figure it's up to you all and the administrators as to how it's done ultimately. My main benefit from such a forum would just be the satisfaction that a skill I have (cooking and recipe creation) can benefit some people who need it.

Jcc I admire the amount of thought you have put into this. You make some very good points. I hope some of your ideas are incorporated into the new forum.

Namaste,

Daniel

[David Hosobuchi]

We could have a place like the have in malls called "The BrainTalk Food Court". This would be expected to have a wide variety of kiosks (subforums) in order to fully represent the diversity of the people represented.

That's my addition for now, let me know what you think, and we'll see where this takes us....

David

[jcc]

I love the FOOD COURT name!

Cara

[AncientWolf]

Yeah, food court sounds cool. I always liked the Chinese food and the pizza at the food court in the mall near where I grew up. I think that name will spring fond tasty memories to mind for many. I agree it would make the sub-forums easier too.

Namaste,

Daniel

[jcc]

How about something like this for starters?

BrainTalk Food Court
Cooking with Disabilities (Special Challenges?)
(cooking safely with Epilepsy, cooking with physical limitations, quick and easy recipes)
Food for Thought (nutritional and healing properties of food; enticing the finicky eater and making every food count)
General Recipes
Gluten Free Diet
Gluten Free/Casein Free Diet
Ketogenic Diet
Multiple Food Allergies
Paleolithic Diet ("autoimmune diet")
Specific Carbohydrate Diet (intestinal healing- used for Celiac Disease, Crohn's, IBS, Autism, Epilepsy)

And within the various specialty diet groups we could have threads stickied for:
Main Dishes
Salads and Vegetables
Breads/Pasta/Rice
Desserts
Appetizers/Snacks
Beverages

Within multiple food allergy, we might just sticky threads for:
Corn Free
Egg Free
Yeast Free
Corn/soy/egg free
etc.


or whatever else members thought made sense within a particular subforum~

Just thinking out loud :).

[jcc]

Jcc I admire the amount of thought you have put into this. You make some very good points. I hope some of your ideas are incorporated into the new forum.

Namaste,

Daniel

Thanks, Daniel. It is mostly 'old' thought, as I've contemplated many times over the possible ways to accomplish something like this...at least for the needs of the GS/CD group. But, I think this would benefit ALL of the forums here.

Some of these diets are used as alternative treatments of various conditions, autoimmune diseases like MS, rheumatoid arthritis and Crohn's Disease, fibromyalgia, autism, ADHD, IBS, etc, and many people may not even realize these dietary approaches might help them. And also, of course, a good place to discuss those other special needs like cooking safely, cooking ahead for immobile family members, stocking the freezer with meals for elderly parents, etc.

Thank you for bringing the idea up!

Cara

[David Hosobuchi]

Ok, this is now an official Community Project. The foundations are being laid in the Food for Thought - Nutrition and Neurology (http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31) forum. I do suspect the name will be changed, perhaps we can have a poll for that...

David

[jcc]

Cool! It will be interesting to see how this evolves :). I hope it will work out and that it is something that will be used by many.

Thanks David!

Cara

[mrsdoubtfyre]

Braintalk Food Court...

This is user friendly... much less stuffy than the old name.

People may look in out of curiosity to start, and be lured in.
Who doesn't LOVE food? LOL

[Moderator #3]

Braintalk Food Court

sounds good to me too.

[forr2grls]

Food Court is a great name for the forum! Thinking about what Rabbit said(safety while cooking). How about a "microwavable recipes" sub-forum?Safe way to cook for those with E.


Paula

[David Hosobuchi]

Ok, the new BrainTalk Community Food Court (http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=299) is now open!!!

[AncientWolf]

Food Court is a great name for the forum! Thinking about what Rabbit said(safety while cooking). How about a "microwavable recipes" sub-forum?Safe way to cook for those with E.


Paula

I agree. I think also a "no cook" subforum for recipes that don't require any heating would also be useful to those with E and other conditions that make it dangerous to use a stove.

Thank you so much David. You're awesome as usual.

Namaste,

Daniel

[linniec]

Some people are having feelings about separating our GF recipes and discussions about food and food prep out of our forum onto a subforum, but...

You can sticky a thread here in this forum which will link you directly to the sub-forum with just a click. Really, it would be no different than clicking on any other thread here. It will be "here" for all practical purposes. Every thread, every forum, really is just a computer address.



Cara

It woud be great to have a Braintalk recipés forum as long as 1.we have a sticky thread here in Epilepsy (and other forums)which takes us to the recipé forum and as long as 2.there is an area for Microwave Recipés (covering main courses and desserts) - Microwaves, as you know, are the only way some can or should cook. And of course, there should be other subdivisions...such as gluten/celiac. Can you make it a sticky thread? How do we(the teeming multitudes) make a sticky rather than a regular thread which sinks away to the bottom of a long-gone page?


Linnie

[AncientWolf]

It woud be great to have a Braintalk recipés forum as long as 1.we have a sticky thread here in Epilepsy (and other forums)which takes us to the recipé forum and as long as 2.there is an area for Microwave Recipés (covering main courses and desserts) - Microwaves, as you know, are the only way some can or should cook. And of course, there should be other subdivisions...such as gluten/celiac. Can you make it a sticky thread? How do we(the teeming multitudes) make a sticky rather than a regular thread which sinks away to the bottom of a long-gone page?


Linnie


Yes, there is already a sub-forum that was created yesterday on the "Braintalk Food Court" for "safety-conscious" recipes. It is a place for microwave recipes, recipes that require very little stove time, and no-cook recipes. Other sub-forums will be created for specific needs as the needs are expressed....at least to my understanding.

As far as stickies go, you and I (and other Braintalk community members) can create threads and then if we feel they should be stickied we ask the moderators and then they sticky the thread if they agree with the need. I agree that there should be a sticky thread in the forums directing people to the food court. It is listed under the announcements, but perhaps a sticky thread would be more permanent (as the announcements grow in length over time) and allow people in the future to more easily find where we post our recipes.

Namaste,

Daniel

[David Hosobuchi]

Ok, navigation issues to the BrainTalk Communities Food Court have been solved. Ther is now a permanent direct link to that forum group at the top of all forum pages in the strip between the BTC banner & the Google Adsense banner.

Hint for a "Quickie Sticky": For fast stickies, click on the "Report Bad Post" icon http://brain.hastypastry.net/forums/images/buttons/report.gif, in the thread you want stickified, type your request & reason in the text box and submit it. This will immediatly send the request to all moderators.

David

[elizabeth]

I like the idea of having a place where recipes can be exchanged for the various diets. I think it would be VERY helpful, if not essential, for there to be subforums for the various specialty diets. Or, at the very least, some way to sort or search for recipes by type of diet so that if one wanted only Swank diet, or celiac-compatible recipes, etc., one could easily locate the right stuff.

Finally, it's also really important to make sure that "recipes" is spelled correctly. :p

This is a GREAT idea, and I hope to see it soon.

Mil gracias! :)

[roz1950]

There are alot more topics that need to be deleted too . For they have not been in use forever.

[AncientWolf]

This is what I think is a better suggestion: for boards that are for conditions that require specific types of diets, perhaps a thread could be stickied at the top like the thread for links.... that way, people will know specifically where to look for recipes that have to do with their particular condition, rather than look through a whole board of jumbled up recipes.

If there's a board just for recipes, people are likely to post anything they happen to like, and identify it as helpful for something. For example, i saw a sugar industry website that would make you think sugar is the healthiest thing in the world for all kinds of problems; potentially, I could post my brothers "recipe" of pressing bread firmly into a bowl of sugar until the sugar is "packed" into the bread, and claim it will help people with one or all of those health problems... there are all kinds of variations i could add in the recipe to expand the health possibilities even further, such as adding powdered soy protein to the sugar and putting a couple tablespoons of flaxseed oil on the bread before smushing it into the sugar - that would give you a tasty recipe for a high protein psoriasis trreatment snack- add your choice of spices or koolaid powder for flavor and color

seriously, thats what could happen on a board dedicated entirely to recipes for health conditions - a virtual free-for-all


The thinking behind it is that several recipes cross over between several different neurological conditions. It becomes difficult to know where to direct someone when they need recipes if they're all over the forums rather than in one food court. The way the forum is set up (and it is up and running see the forum Braintalk community food court) is that it has sub-forum for specific dietary needs. That saves the need to search through dozens of unrelated recipes. Feel free to suggest some sub-forums if you feel any dietary need isn't being covered.

Namaste,

Daniel