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dyslimbic
05-05-2008, 06:07 AM
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-05/uonc-mdi043008.php

Contact: Patric Lane
patric_lane@unc.edu
919-962-8596
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Mental disorders in parents linked to autism in children

CHAPEL HILL – Parents of children with autism were roughly twice as likely to have been hospitalized for a mental disorder, such as schizophrenia, than parents of other children, according to an analysis of Swedish birth and hospital records by a University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill researcher and colleagues in the U.S. and Europe.

The study, “Parental psychiatric disorders associated with autism spectrum disorders in the offspring,” appears in the May 5, 2008, issue of the journal Pediatrics.

“We are trying to determine whether autism is more common among families with other psychiatric disorders. Establishing an association between autism and other psychiatric disorders might enable future investigators to better focus on genetic and environmental factors that might be shared among these disorders,” said study author Julie Daniels, Ph.D., an assistant professor in the UNC School of Public Health’s epidemiology and maternal and child health departments.

“Earlier studies have shown a higher rate of psychiatric disorders in families of autistic children than in the general population,” she said. “We wanted to see if the parents of autistic children were more likely to be diagnosed with mental disorders.

“Our research shows that mothers and fathers diagnosed with schizophrenia were about twice as likely to have a child diagnosed with autism. We also saw higher rates of depression and personality disorders among mothers, but not fathers,” Daniels said.

This information will help researchers look among related diseases, such as psychiatric disorders, for causes of autism, Daniels said. “It may eventually help identify opportunities to prevent or treat the disorder.”

The study examined 1,237 children born between 1977 and 2003 who were diagnosed with autism before age 10, and compared them with 30,925 control subjects matched for gender, year of birth and hospital. The large sample size enabled researchers to distinguish between psychiatric histories of mothers versus fathers in relation to autism. The association was present regardless of the timing of the parent’s diagnosis relative to the child’s diagnosis.

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Coauthors of the study include Ulla Forssen, Ph.D., GlaxoSmithKline epidemiologist, Collegeville, Pa.; Christina Hultman, Ph.D., Sven Cnattingius, M.D., Ph.D. and Par Sparen, Ph.D., all of the department of medical epidemiology and biostatistics at the Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden; David Savitz, Ph.D., director of the Center of Excellence in Epidemiology, Biostatistics and Disease Prevention, Mt. Sinai School of Medicine, New York; and Maria Feychting, Ph.D., Institute of Environmental Medicine, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden.

Note: Daniels can be reached at juliedaniels@unc.edu.

School of Public Health contact: Ramona DuBose, (919) 966-7467, ramona_dubose@unc.edu
News Services contact: Patric Lane, (919) 962-8596, patric_lane@unc.edu

Keggy
05-05-2008, 08:49 AM
This line cracked me up.......

"We also saw higher rates of depression and personality disorders among mothers, but not fathers?"

Naominjw
05-06-2008, 08:55 PM
" Parents of children with autism were roughly twice as likely to have been hospitalized for a mental disorder, such as schizophrenia"

Maybe because NEITHER of them are "mental"... they share a biological basis and possibly the same toxic. environmental/metabolic triggers??? Duh.

Is it a coincidence that autoimmune disorders and celiac and mitochondrial dysfunctions are more common in both than in the general population? Or that in pediatric-onset schizophrenia there are a lot more cases that also have autism? And many doctors consider both to actually a developmental disorder -- even in schizophrenia -- that even before birth, so many things can subtley affect the developing brain, including the mother's own immune system battling against viral invaders.

If we get rid of the term "mental" from these illnesses and just say illnesses affecting the brain, or some specific encephalopathy, we wouldn't think it so odd.

Many parents of kids with bipolar and schizophrenia notice that even if their child was not diagnosed with autism -- they still have associated autistic characteristics.

Naominjw
05-06-2008, 08:59 PM
This line cracked me up.......

"We also saw higher rates of depression and personality disorders among mothers, but not fathers?"

Yeah... It's still the same old "blame the mother" game.

And have they ever thought the depression is biological? And maybe the "personality disorder" is actually yet another biological problem the person grew up with manifesting itself in whart now looks like "personailty"?

But that is so funny.... yeah.... they never mention the fathers....

Isabelle
05-06-2008, 09:20 PM
LOL LOL :D if it's psychiatrist speaking and or connected with a big pharma LOL everybody has a mental illness and in need of prozac or risperdal and whatever is in between :mad::rolleyes::(

milivica
05-07-2008, 12:10 AM
I was only 'sad' before the shrinks diagnosed me, then I was depressed.

lol?

I don't totally understand that study, I think it's a given that just as being artistic or musical or whatnot can run at a higher percentage in a family, so can the so called mental disorders. Right? I mean I thought so anyhow. I had a grandma that was 'off', all her kids were definitely off especially my dad, then his one biological daughter (not me) is schizophrenic, and, when I thought about it I could see that my grandma had a spoon full of schizophrenia, my dad had a cupful, and my sister had the whole bucket full...know what I mean? Is it just me or do we all know families like that, or, are we all IN families like that! Likewise, it can be only one relative with 'something' and it skips everyone else, so it's actually good mental health that runs in the family.

peglem
05-07-2008, 12:30 AM
Maybe they've got it backwards- maybe it should be autistic children linked to parental mental disorders. :D:D

AKF
05-07-2008, 04:09 PM
Maybe they've got it backwards- maybe it should be autistic children linked to parental mental disorders. :D:D

That was my thought, too!!:) And as to why the mothers were schizophrenic and not the dads, well, if it's working in reverse, then that would explain it!!

The Pogue
05-07-2008, 04:15 PM
I hope to the FSM this doesn't offend anyone...but assuming its true that rates of disorders affecting the brain ARE higher in mothers but NOT fathers of autistic children...I dont know whether it is true or not, but accepting at face value for the moment:

Could it be because it's easier for women who have such conditions to marry and reproduce despite their disability than men? Perhaps men with autism are less likely marry and pass on their genetic traits than women?

Admittedly, this is an over-generalization, but I believe women tend to be more selective about who they will sleep with then men.... Some men desiring casual sex will actually target women who seem particularly vulnerable or 'slow' in some way, because they are more gullible and easy to seduce.

Also, the "traditional" role of men has been to support the family financially, while women's role was nurturing and handling domestic matters. Hence, women might have tended to seek out men with earning potential, while men look for loving partners. Many brain conditions are more likely to limit one's earning potential than their ability to nurture. Thus, an affected woman's "marriageability" might be less hindered than a man with the same condition?

Food for thought.

dyslimbic
05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
That was my thought, too!!:) And as to why the mothers were schizophrenic and not the dads, well, if it's working in reverse, then that would explain it!!

The article says

“Our research shows that mothers and fathers diagnosed with schizophrenia were about twice as likely to have a child diagnosed with autism

Isabelle
05-08-2008, 01:04 PM
sorry i had to edit

couldn't be that alcohol addiction or dependency on alcohol for a couple of generations (some longer than that) spoiled the good genes? or, use of street drugs and use of rx drugs...because as is known rx drugs affected too the genes or DNA, like thalidomide, acne treatment, benzos, tranquilizers, anticonvulsants...? just an example.
editing: i forgot...smoking the biggest contributor to DNA changes

milivica
05-08-2008, 07:55 PM
Maybe they've got it backwards- maybe it should be autistic children linked to parental mental disorders. :D:D

Baawawawaaaaa...D@MN RIGHT!!!!

You are good girl, you are reeeeeeeeally good!

Keggy
05-08-2008, 08:34 PM
It is totally backwards. As a person who beleives that all illness (including personality disorders and depression) are caused by a trauma of one sort or another, the question begs to be answered. Who here has not been traumatized by dealing with doctors, schools, neighbors and families?

By the way Pogue, love those noodly appendages.

Isabelle
05-09-2008, 02:33 AM
It is totally backwards. As a person who beleives that all illness (including personality disorders and depression) are caused by a trauma of one sort or another, the question begs to be answered. Who here has not been traumatized by dealing with doctors, schools, neighbors and families?

you are absolutely right, kegs, who hasn't been?