Another Tragedy

[Phil]

From the Ellen Show:

Be My Valentine (http://ellen.warnerbros.com/2008/02/a_tragedy_that_should_never_ha.php)

[AncientWolf]

Yeah, that was a terrible tragedy. I didn't know the kid, but he didn't live too far from here. It was all over my local news. These stories always break my heart, but with this one I cried for days. There should not be so much hate in this world, but unfortunately there is. It's really tragic when such extreme hate comes from one so young and that another so young looses his life over it.

It just happened that I was writing a paper for my English class and had picked for a topic "teaching tolerance towards sexual orientations in schools." Then just when I finished the paper, this tragedy happened. I went back and re-edited the paper to include something about the tragedy. Again I broke down in tears. It was so hard to write about it.

I lit a candle for Lawrence and said prayers for him AND for his killer. Remember, his killer was just a boy too and a boy who apparently had a lot of problems if he did something like this.

We need to start teaching tolerance in our schools. The backwards, hateful and fearful religious wrong is partly responsible for this tragedy and others like it in my view.

Much love

Namaste,

Daniel

[Phil]

Hello Daniel,

Thank you so much for your reply. I have read some of your posts and I must say that you seem to be a very caring and kind individual. I saw that on Ellen and just cried. A young life snuffed out...and for what? And what is to become of his killer? Probably tried as an adult only to spend the rest of his life behind bars. What in the world went through his mind? All he had to do was say no!! By no means do I make ANY excuses for this MURDERER but I have to wonder what his home life was like. If memory serves me correctly, something very similiar to this just happened recently.


He will (we all will) one day answer to God for everything we did in our lives. I was just sickened by the entire ordeal. Is it the new thing now for young people to kill one another? His poor parents. I don't recall if he had any brothers or sisters. I think the schools need to do two things. 1. Try to identify these types of youngsters before something like this happens and get them in counseling NOW. 2. Start teaching tolerance and compassion!!

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When I was much younger I made the mistake of telling a neighbor "my secret". Let's just say parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, (santa claus:) ) the entire neighborhood and "the school" knew. It seemed like over-night. The terrifying thing was that my father kept a loaded 45 in his dresser drawer.....but would you believe it never crossed my mind? Thank God!!

There was a family down the street from Saudi Arabia. The son told me that in "his country" you could be beheaded for such a thing. Please forgive me for saying so but I hope he and his family went back to Saudi Arabia- - -and stayed there!!

I think he even told the milk-man and the dog:):) Recently I happened to see him at the allergists and yep, he had a sh*t eating grin on his face. No remorse at all. I really wanted to knock his teeth out. But I would have been arrested and would have had to pay restitution. I wish I could forgive him. After all, it's only hurting me. It damaged me psychologically, very, very bad.


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I know the LGBT forum is very slow but I took the time to go back and read some posts from the beginning. Apparently, this is a medical forum??

I was hoping we could have a chat thread. I posted to 5 or 6 individuals and not one of them posted back to me. My feelings were really hurt. No one has told me not to post here and I'm not saying I won't but I think for now I will stay away from the forum. I've never even received a welcome. I have posted personal things and (I thought) interesting things. I did receive one kind reply. Thank you.

I know we have MANY gay members more than post on this forum yet very few post though that is their right. The really sad fact is that most of the time, most people know anyway. I don't believe in forcing anyone out. I know many of us are sick and disabled and not always able to be here.

I mean no ill will towards anyone. My feelings are easily hurt.

Daniel, thank you so much for posting and I am SO sorry for all of the extra stuff I included in this post. I guess I'm on a roll. OY VEY!!


Your kind hearted ((Daniel)). Thank you!!

~ ~Phil~ ~

[AncientWolf]

Hello Daniel,

Thank you so much for your reply. I have read some of your posts and I must say that you seem to be a very caring and kind individual. I saw that on Ellen and just cried. A young life snuffed out...and for what? And what is to become of his killer? Probably tried as an adult only to spend the rest of his life behind bars. What in the world went through his mind? All he had to do was say no!! By no means do I make ANY excuses for this MURDERER but I have to wonder what his home life was like. If memory serves me correctly, something very similiar to this just happened recently.


He will (we all will) one day answer to God for everything we did in our lives. I was just sickened by the entire ordeal. Is it the new thing now for young people to kill one another? His poor parents. I don't recall if he had any brothers or sisters. I think the schools need to do two things. 1. Try to identify these types of youngsters before something like this happens and get them in counseling NOW. 2. Start teaching tolerance and compassion!!

- - - - -

When I was much younger I made the mistake of telling a neighbor "my secret". Let's just say parents, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, (santa claus:) ) the entire neighborhood and "the school" knew. It seemed like over-night. The terrifying thing was that my father kept a loaded 45 in his dresser drawer.....but would you believe it never crossed my mind? Thank God!!

There was a family down the street from Saudi Arabia. The son told me that in "his country" you could be beheaded for such a thing. Please forgive me for saying so but I hope he and his family went back to Saudi Arabia- - -and stayed there!!

I think he even told the milk-man and the dog:):) Recently I happened to see him at the allergists and yep, he had a sh*t eating grin on his face. No remorse at all. I really wanted to knock his teeth out. But I would have been arrested and would have had to pay restitution. I wish I could forgive him. After all, it's only hurting me. It damaged me psychologically, very, very bad.


- - - - -

I know the LGBT forum is very slow but I took the time to go back and read some posts from the beginning. Apparently, this is a medical forum??

I was hoping we could have a chat thread. I posted to 5 or 6 individuals and not one of them posted back to me. My feelings were really hurt. No one has told me not to post here and I'm not saying I won't but I think for now I will stay away from the forum. I've never even received a welcome. I have posted personal things and (I thought) interesting things. I did receive one kind reply. Thank you.

I know we have MANY gay members more than post on this forum yet very few post though that is their right. The really sad fact is that most of the time, most people know anyway. I don't believe in forcing anyone out. I know many of us are sick and disabled and not always able to be here.

I mean no ill will towards anyone. My feelings are easily hurt.

Daniel, thank you so much for posting and I am SO sorry for all of the extra stuff I included in this post. I guess I'm on a roll. OY VEY!!


Your kind hearted ((Daniel)). Thank you!!

~ ~Phil~ ~

Phil,

Yes. This is a group of neurology forums. We deal with a variety of neurological disorders such as Parkinsons, Epilepsy, neuropathy, bipolar personality disorder, schizophrenia and many many others. Perhaps there are other forums at Braintalk which might benefit you as well if you haven't already looked at the list. Most of us tend to be nonjudgmental and respectful.

I'm sorry your feelings are so easily hurt. Braintalk used to be a place that was jumping with activity. There are still many forums that are extremely active, but the LGBT forum is fairly new compared to the others and has had limited visitation. We had some problems in the beginning with folks misunderstanding the purpose of this forum and thus a lot of heterosexual folks came in here to ask about what it's like to be gay and such and we had some folks come in here preaching about how sinful our lifestyle supposedly is. That lead a few people who used to post in the lgbt forum to stop doing so. The purpose of this forum is to help lgbt persons who have some sort of neurological condition (and that includes those classified as "mental disorders" such as bipolar) deal with the special pressures that occur with us being l,g,b and/or t. This includes dealing with doctors, lack of support from family, etc.

I encourage you to look through the list of forums and see what others might be of use to you. Perhaps the bipolar forum since you seem to be so easily hurt? I mean this as absolutely no insult and I am not attempting to diagnose you. I am only speaking as someone who is bipolar and who used to have a huge problem with getting his feelings hurt easily. Heck, sometimes I'm still as easily bruised as a peach.

Some folks don't respond to personal messages from folks they don't know and don't even open them because we occassionally do get spammers in here. It's nothing personal on you and I know you're not a spammer; however, if they don't know you there's no way of them knowing. It's also entirely possible that the folks whom you messaged haven't been logged into Braintalk for a while. I wouldn't take it too personally. Most of us mean well. Just stick around a while and chat in a couple forums and you will find plenty of supportive folks who may even become new friends.

Much love

*hug

Namaste,

Daniel