2008 Update

[~Pansy~]

CTScan and Bone Scan results are in. Cancer-free! They ask what I'm doing, how the cancer has dissapeared and no new lesions? I give them the same old answer. Flaxseed oil & Sulfrated Protein :)

[laurensmom]

Way to Go Pansy!!! That's such great news!!!

Hugs,

Debi

[jaybird]

Pansy this is such good news to hear. It is good to hear that someone is able to over come cancer! Congratulations, Jay

[mrsdoubtfyre]

I came over here today, to look for you because a person at NeuroTalk
is having trouble with the flax regimen for cancer. So expect to hear from
her--I linked this thread for her.

You are an inspiration, and I do think your positive attitude has something to
do with your progress as well!

Take care! I am very happy for you.

P.S. I cannot post links here or in PM because BT blocks NT links.

[~Pansy~]

Thanks so much for your support, Debi, Jay and Mrs. Doubtfyre!

Mrs. Doubtfyre, it is so good to hear from you! I will try a search to find this NeuroTalk. Do you have my private email? You can send me a link?

~Pansy~

I registered there and was not able to locate the thread. Please provide me with the title of the thread and I will help the best I can. :)

[mrsdoubtfyre]

how's that? <wink>

Thanks!

[~Pansy~]

Thanks, Mrs. Doubtfyre. I've received your pm and registered and posted. I guess they have to approve my post before it actually gets posted on the site.

[casten]

I am in awe.

I thank mrsd from neurotalk directing me to you.

I have skin cancer and my 14 year old Siberian Husky was recently diagnosed with a fibrosarcoma. I don't want to do surgery because of her age and the necessary down time to heal. She is extremely arthritic and down time would be detrimental to her.

A lot of people think she should be put down. That is now their place. I have had Nina since she was 14 weeks old, most my adult life. She still has great days of romping at the doggy park, going to Mc Donalds for her beloved hamburger or just a simple walk with me and my children. I must be doing something right as she has surpassed her life expectancy by 2 years. So, in trying to do what I thought was right, I poisoned myself and my dog. She is still in ICU.

This all started on the 4th after reading about Dr Johanna Budwigs cancer cures. Some flaxseed oil mixed with cottage chz "quark". Me and my Nina started with the gel caps at 3000 mg a day. I noticed she was perking up on day 3, but her tumor was unchanged. Doing more searching on-line I found that the gels would be of no benefit to her as the flax had to be cool and dispensed in liquid form. So I did. 2 TBLSP to 1/4 cup organic cottage cheese twice daily. I also introduced her to glucosemine for mobility. I trusted this website I had found as he was dealing with the same breed of dog. I went by his doseage amounts and I even emailed guestions and he responded. Nina is now in the hospital hooked to an IV receiving fluids and anti-biotics. Apparently, she could not handle the large dosages of the fatty acids found in the flaxseed and now has Pancrea****. I started throwin up on day 9 and that lasted for 3 days. During that time I had stopped the treatment for myself and lowered her doseage. By Saturday night, day 12 she was at death's door.

What did I do wrong? I hope to bring her home this evening and eventually want to resume treatment, but now I hesitate.

Thank you for your help!

I could of killed her! On the other hand I could barely find her tumor this morning! Yes the combo was working, but still could of cost her life

[~Pansy~]

Hi Casten,

I've posted on your thread on the other site.

Dogs, like people, are individual. What is good for one may not be good for another. The first thought that comes to mind is that although 2 tablespoons twice a day is fine for humans (and light for those with stage 4 cancer) it is probably too much for a dog. If you are going to continue with the fso & cc, then maybe only give her 1 tablespoon per day. And cut that in half so that she gets it twice per day. But I am not a vet, so research and get other opinions. We give Duke the oil, but just a dab, not 2 tablespoons. Duke also eats the healthy dog food with flax in it.

The other thought is that she may possibly do better flaxmeal rather than flax oil. You can buy Barlean's brand meal and crush it and put it in her food. Again, go lightly for her.

The next option would be to feed her a healthy dog food that contains flax in an amount that is healthy for dogs. The flax in this dog food is in meal form, not oil form. You can check it out and/or order it here: http://healthypetnet.com/thedoglady

here is a list of ingredients:

Ingredients listed alphabetically:

Alfalfa

Alfalfa is one of the most nutritionally complete foods, providing nutrients needed by dogs to sustain wellbeing. The green leaves of the alfalfa plant are an excellent source of digestible soluble fiber and chlorophyll. Alfalfa has also been shown to be a source of protein and rich source of minerals such as calcium, magnesium, potassium, manganese, phosphorus, iron, and zinc. It also contains the entire spectrum of known vitamins including Vitamin A (Beta Carotene), Vitamin B1, Vitamin B2, Niacin, Biotin, Choline, Pantothenic acid, Folic Acid, Vitamin C, Vitamin E (Tocopherols), and Vitamin K.

Antioxidants

Antioxidants are a necessity to every diet, including your dogs. Antioxidants are powerful compounds that neutralize free radicals – natural substances produced by the body as it ages – to help your dog maintain a healthy, active life. Dogs naturally produce their own antioxidant Vitamin C, but other antioxidant nutrients such as Vitamin E, Beta Carotene, and the trace mineral Selenium must be consumed in their daily diets. The best food sources of antioxidant nutrients are fresh fruits, vegetables, and whole grains – all foods most dogs like but don’t regularly get to eat.

This is why we included lots of antioxidant rich fruits and vegetables in Life’s Abundance®, something most pet food manufacturers don’t do. It’s also why we made the healthy decision to enhance our food with a patented grapeseed extract. The all-natural, red grape seed extract used in our food is rich in powerful plant-based antioxidants called proanthocyanidins. Some of these proanthocyanidins, most notably oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs), are very powerful antioxidants – many times more potent than Vitamins E, C and Beta-Carotene.

Apples

Apples provide a powerhouse of vitamins and minerals including Vitamin C, Potassium, Calcium, Magnesium, and Folate which help protect cells and keep them healthy. Apples are also loaded with Quercetin, a powerful antioxidant that may be a major reason why the old saying about eating "an apple a day" has been associated with good health.

Bacteria Cultures:

Life’s Abundance® contains a source of live (viable) naturally occurring microorganisms. Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum and Enterococcus Faecium are specially selected active cultures provided by Life’s Abundance® to help maintain a healthy immune and digestive function. They are specially processed to remain active even after cooking and are guaranteed to be in every serving of Life’s Abundance® your dog enjoys!

Brewer’s Dried Yeast

Brewer’s dried yeast is loaded with highly digestible protein with an exceptional amino acid balance and contains an abundance of natural minerals and vitamins, especially B Complex Vitamins (except B12). Brewer’s dried yeast helps the digestive system work at peak efficiency, allowing your pet to get even more nutrition from our wholesome foods.

Carrots

Carrots are bursting with beta-carotene (or Vitamin A), a powerful antioxidant that helps to keep your dog’s skin and eyesight healthy. Carrots also contain Vitamins C, D, E, and K, Riboflavin, Niacin, Calcium, Potassium, Phosphorus, Sodium, and Iron.

Catfish Meal

Our top quality fish meal is made by drying the freshest catfish at a low temperature, creating a concentrated, highly-digestible protein source. In addition to being an excellent source of protein, catfish meal provides natural DHA and EPA, the most important of all the Omega-3 fatty acids. Vital for a strong healthy heart and central nervous system, DHA and EPA can also help promote healthy skin and a shiny coat.

Celery

Celery is packed with beneficial fiber, Potassium and Vitamin C to help your dog maintain good health. It also contains some Vitamin A, Calcium, and the antioxidants Lutein and Zeaxanthin.

Chicken Fat

Chicken fat is a high quality fat source rich in Omega-6 fatty acids for outstanding skin and coat condition. In addition to providing essential fatty acids, it is more digestible than most fats and provides a superior long term energy source. The chicken fat used in Life’s Abundance® foods is naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols (a source of natural Vitamin E) to maintain freshness.

Chicken Meal, the FIRST ingredient in Life’s Abundance®.

Meat is the most natural source of protein for dogs and contains the amino acids most important to pet health. With chicken meal as our first ingredient, you can be assured that not only does your dog get a generous portion of real chicken, but also a superior balance of amino acids, fatty acids, vitamins, and minerals for muscle development, energy and healthy organs. We use only naturally grown chicken for our chicken meal - every batch is made using a slow roasting method that allows the fat and water to be released as the chicken cooks, creating a concentrated, highly-digestible protein and fat source.

Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed)
Beet Pulp is the vegetable matter that remains after sugar is extracted from sliced grey sugar beets. It is an excellent source of soluble fiber and helps to maintain a healthy digestive tract and promote normal stools.

Eggs

Eggs are one of nature's most nutrient dense foods and play an important part of a balanced diet. They are considered a complete protein source providing essential amino acids, vitamins and minerals (Vitamins A, B, E, K, Biotin, and Sulfur) that can make a significant contribution to healthy growth and muscle development. Eggs also provide healthy fats such as Omega-6 for healthy skin and coat.

Flax Seed Meal

Flax seed meal is the richest plant source of antioxidant lignans and Omega-3 fatty acids that both help support an active immune system. The high levels of Omega-3 fatty acids in flax seed meal also help promote healthy skin and a shiny coat. Flax seed meal also has a very high level of highly digestible protein and essential amino acids needed to keep dogs fit and healthy. In addition, flax seed meal contains high amounts of fiber (aids in digestion), Vitamin E, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Niacin, Vitamin B6 and is extremely high in the minerals Potassium, Calcium and Phosphorus.

Ground Brown Rice

Brown rice is natural whole grain rice that provides fiber as well as valuable quantities of minerals and essential B vitamins. It is highly digestible and an excellent high quality complex carbohydrate source for energy and fiber for colon health.

Potatoes

Potatoes are a real energy provider for your dog as they provide an excellent source of highly digestible complex carbohydrates. They contain an abundance of potassium and magnesium, minerals required for healthy muscles and a strong heart. Potatoes are also a good source of Vitamin C.

Proteinated Mineral Package:

(Copper Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, and Zinc Proteinate)
Proteinated minerals are organic minerals complexed with natural protein amino acids. By acting like a protein they offer better absorption, resulting in more efficient use of the regular trace minerals.

Spinach

Spinach is packed with vitamins and minerals, particularly Folate, Vitamin K, Magnesium, Iron and Manganese. It is exceptionally rich in Beta Carotene and Lutein which keep your dog’s eyesight healthy and also Quercetin, a ‘phytochemical’ with antioxidant properties.

Quite possibly, the sugar added to her food might be the culprit ???

Please don't be so hard on yourself. You are trying to help her. It is very obvious how much you love her :)

~Pansy~

want to add that what is good for humans is not always good for animals. the fat found in a burger is not good for humans but is great for dogs. and it is probably the case that the fat that is good in flax OIL that is good for humans is not good for dogs. that is why flax meal is best for dogs.

[casten]

Pansy, thank you so much for ALL that info! After a good day in ICU Nina was on the upward swing. However when I went to pick her up to bring her home, they said she had regressed and needed to go back to the ER. Since the ER didn't open till 6pm, I decided to drive her over to the doggy park to perk her up. I had no intention of taking her in, I just wanted to perk her up. Hardly the case. She sat there in the back of my suv breathing heavily and hardly able to stand. The doctor said she refused any kind of food all day, so I took her home and tried to give her hamburger that I had washed away the fat. Nothing. I tried her favorite chicken, nothing. Liverwurst(her favorite treat that is never turned down), nothing. Back to the ER. The doctor describes her as critical and that in worst case scenarios a pancreatitis pacient will just die! They said sometimes it gets down to where they have to do exploritory surgery just to get everything flushed out. I left her there for tonight thinking I have said my last goodbye. I can't believe it has come to this. I did this to her! Loyal to her for 14 years and I OD her!

Thank you for any input you may have

[~Pansy~]

Hi casten,

I have just spent hours on the net searching for information on flaxseed oil overdoses and flaxseed oil and dogs. I cannot find anything that would indicate that it is not okay to give dogs flaxseed oil. On the contrary, I did find several articles that discussed the benefits of flaxseed oil for dogs and a couple of articles that state that dogs were cured of cancer with the administration of flaxseed oil.

In addition, I can't figure out why you think you have overdosed yourself? Are you drinking a bottle a day? I don't understand. I have taken up to 9 tablespoons a day without negative side-effects. Dr. Budwig gives her patients that are hours away from death far more than I have ever taken and much to the amazement of the medical community, they are alive and well today.

There are not any case studies that show negative side-effects related to the consumtion of flaxseed oil. I cannot find anything that states that anyone, anywhere, has ever had an allergic reaction to flaxseed oil.

Sweetie, I think you are being too hard on yourself. Whatever is wrong with Nina, I do not believe has anything to do with the flaxseed oil. I do not believe you are responsible. Has the doctor done tests... bone scans, ct scans, mri's to see if the cancer has spread to her bones or organs? It could very well be that this is the case. At any rate, I don't think you should blame yourself.

The same for you. I can't find anything anywhere that shows that a human has had a bad reaction to the flaxseed. The only thing I know is personal experience with my mom who has a malabsorption problem so can't digest the flaxseed oil. Otherwise, nothing anywhere.

You may just have a flu bug. It may just be bad timing.

What about food poisoning? Did you say that you and Nina went to a hamburger stand the other day? Is that when the vomiting started? What do you think?

Please, do a search on the net. See for yourself the positive things that are being said about giving humans and canines flaxseed oil.

Give yourself a big hug. You've done everything you can for your baby.

[casten]

Oh Pansy, I cannot thank you enough for all your hard work on looking for a "reason". I blame myself because I did not start out small and build up to the normal dose. Everything I had read on-line said if it is cancer, treat it agressively. I read of numerous cases of cutting back after lumps were receeding or the animal had perked up only to have to agressively treat it again and pick up the doseage. The last thing Nina ate was 2 tbsp flaxseed oil (barleans) and 1/4c organic cottage cheese. As I type this, they are doing an ultrasound to see if this is something else like pancreatic cancer. In addition to her fighting for her life against pancreatitis, she also got an alarming case of periontitis.
She is still on fluids, antibiotics and pain meds.

Thank you so much again for your reply