Can someone tell me what this is?? It's making me NUTS!!!

[Ponygirl]

I can't fall asleep at night, if, my life depended on it, but, then, I can't
wake up, once, I'm asleep. Which, makes trying to get out & do things,
impossible. Anyone have this problem??:rolleyes:

Phyllis

[Ponygirl]

Hoping for a reply!;)

Phyllis

[beckyboo]

It sounds like you have sleep apnea. I was having the same trouble until I went to see a sleep specialist. I now use a cpap machine to help me sleep at night.

[Ponygirl]

Exactly, what does the machine do?? I mean, is it for someone
with breathing problems? 'Cause, I don't have that problem, while,
I'm awake. Could it happen, only, when I sleep??:eek: :confused:

Phyllis

[joy]

I was originally diagnosed as having sleep apnea but discovered I could not use my machine unless I was "drugged". I stopped and off and on kept trying but because I also have an extremely dry mouth decided to give another sleep doctor a visit. This time I slept very well on my visit with using a machine and there was not that many episodes of my breathing stopping. But I had taken a medication they would rather I not take so prescribed a sleeping pill. And said that I likley have insomnia. i was suppose to go back and just haven't. But it might be very worthwhile for you to pay a visit. It sounds to me as if you might have mulitple problems. And if a c-pap machine worked, I have friends that say it makes them feel wonderful. Good luck with it all.

[Ponygirl]

Yeah, insomnia is more, what, I was thinking. 'Cause, when I DO
get to sleep, Lord, I SLEEP!:D:D:D...LOL
Now, if I could do that at a NORMAL hour, I think, I'd be okay!:rolleyes:
LOL

Phyllis

[beckyboo]

I just finished two days of sleep study. On the first day, I was in the first stage of sleep most of the night. Even when they put the head gear to the CPAP on me. I only got 1 hour of REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep that night. That was just before they came and woke me up. I never went into a deep sleep. The next night, the CPAP machine was used through the whole night. Once the pressure to the CPAP was increased, I finally went into a deep sleep.

I have problems with insomnia like you. I also stop breathing at 20 times at night. You may be in your first stage of sleep and just having trouble getting into the REM sleep. That's why a sleep study is important. If you don't stop breathing at least 20 times or more at night, you won't need a CPAP machine to help you sleep at night. I found that out from the technician when talking.

The most important thing is learning how to relax so that your body can fall asleep at night.

Becky

[joy]

About all I recall from what the doctor tried to tell me is that I did not get much REM sleep either.

[Ponygirl]

One thing, you said, really struck me. Being able to relax, before,
I fall asleep is a really hard thing for me, 'cause, I'm on the phone,
chatting, until, I go to bed. Plus, there are certain people, that, I CAN'T
put a time-limit on, so, they get to call, 24/7!:D Which, may not help
my sleep, but, makes me happy!;) So, I guess, SOMETHING HAS to
suffer!...LOL

Phyllis

[Ponyguy]

I can't fall asleep at night, if, my life depended on it, but, then, I can't
wake up, once, I'm asleep. Which, makes trying to get out & do things,
impossible. Anyone have this problem??:rolleyes:

Phyllis

Try going to confession.

Works wonders.


Much love and
Regards from,

[Ponygirl]

:confused:





Did I miss something???

Phyllis

[Nana4&cntn]

Hi Ponygirl,

I was in your boat a few years ago, mainly due to pain. My pain doc prescribes Rozerem. After doing some research I found out it is one molucule from meletonoin. I have had good result from it. I have not experienced any side effects. I also have a routine I use prior to bedtime that tells the head (supposedly) it's time for bed. Hope this helps. Kathy

[Ponygirl]

Well, I'm on the generic brand of Prozac for Depression, right, now.
I've been on it, a couple of years, now. But, it's a pretty low dose.
It may need to be increased, or, I may need something different.
Anywho, I have an Appt., coming up, so, we'll see!;)

Thanks, again!:)

Phyllis

[Arna]

Hi Ponygirl,
You wrote: Yeah, insomnia is more, what, I was thinking. 'Cause, when I DO
get to sleep, Lord, I SLEEP!...LOL
Now, if I could do that at a NORMAL hour, I think, I'd be okay!
Apnea and insomnia, at least, have been suggested. But if you've had such problems for a long time, you might consider DSPS (or DSPD), Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome (or Disorder, its new name). It's a chronic Circadian Rhythm disorder, usually starts in early childhood or in adolescence. See Wikipedia or dspsinfo.org. Your comment sounds so typical of DSPS.

[Ponygirl]

:eek:Really, Arna?!?!? Do you know, whether, anything can be done for it??
Thanks a bunch!:)

Phyllis

[Arna]

Hi Phyllis, you still around? Apparently I didn't get a message about your reply; isn't one supposed to (?!?!!). Hope you're sleeping better, whatever the cause of the problem turned out to be.

The usual treatment for DSPS is twofold:

Bright light ("light box", usually 10000 lux at 15 to 65 cm, read the directions with the lamp) for 30 min or so upon awakening. This does NOT mean using bright light earlier than you'd awaken without alarm clock or other help. It's to be used at the time your body thinks is an OK time to awaken. In theory you can ease it earlier a few minutes every few days.

Melatonin 1-2 hrs before bedtime. 0.25 to 0.5 mg is enough for most people which one has to hunt for, as the usual pill or capsule is 3 mg, way more than necessary. It does not knock you out. It provides a 'window' of sleepiness. You have to experiment with the timing. I get sleepy 1 and 1 quarter hrs after taking it. I need to be ready to go to bed then, as the sleepiness doesn't last long. Obviously, the idea is to move bedtime a few minutes earlier every few days. If you're usually getting to sleep well after midnight, there's no point taking melatonin at 9 p.m. Here, too, one's starting point is the schedule the body wants.

For people with mild DSPS the above may be good enough. If the disorder is more severe, the treatment may work for some days in a row, followed by some days out of whack. The problem needs to be managed, rather than cured.

Hope this helps you and/or someone else. (I am not a doctor. No doctor in her/his right mind prescribes treatment on a forum.)