Salt lamps,pipes,etc.

[Buttons2]

wondering if anyone here has used these products for breathing problems? I'm considering ordering a pipe to help me breathe better (have had tests & passed all of them-hey I'm healthy-NOT).

I've used salt crystals in the past & they were a wonder! (didn't use them for inhaling).

Thanks for any input you might have,Buttons

[ainee]

Buttons2 - I named the treatment I experimented with MOT - Mini Oxygen Treatment. It's pretty cheap, taken 3 (or 4) times a day, at home (or wherever you are) and No machines or pipes etc.
I wonder what your diagnosis and symptoms are - and why you think oxygen would be benificial?
My story. I suffered many neurological (nerve) symptoms, which cross over many different illnesses and conditions. I believe injury and/or toxin - even years before - can later cause damage to the nervous system. By the time the symptoms show up, any cause is long forgotten and the many tests I had, ( like so many others I've read about) could not find why I was suffering horrific cramps, twitches, numbness, tics, involuntary movements, facial grimaces, itching, plus many more symptoms too numerous to mention.
I experimented with Vitamin B1 - 250mgs 3 times a day - which suppressed the symptoms for awhile. After 18 months of research, experimentation, trial and error, raising the dose quantities and doses per day, my horrific symptoms started to reverse. Now 5 years later, I still take MOT - and I'm reasonably well most of the time.
The VB1 and a few other treatments which I experimented with - raises my body's temperature, increases my breathing, increases blood and oxygen content to my body over an extended period of time. I still take my dose 3 times a day as I believe the injury and toxin I was exposed to, is still there, but the MOT has reversed the damage done to my nervous system.
I read where HBOT - Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy - is used for many illnesses and conditions, but can damage tissues and cells and can cause bubbles in the blood. I believe MOT could help many to have better health, regardless of diagnosis or cause - we all need oxygen, but some who are ill or who have been exposed to injury and/or toxin, need more. MOT is a gentle, safe, easy to take, easy way to increase the oxygen content to the body over an extended period of time and if it doesn't do any good, then at least it won't do any harm.
ainee.

[Buttons2]

Hi Ainee, I've read about what you have done before & am so glad you have found relief!

I'm a mystery-no diagnosis except for the myoclonus. I suspected Lyme disease but no doctor would pursue it based on symptoms & my worthless test came back negative.

First neuro suspected Cruetzfeldt-Jakobs,this was several years ago,not alot of info out there about this & people don't last too long once diagnosed! I've recently figured out that there's different types of this disease & not everyone is dead within a year or 2 so perhaps that is still a possibility-I just don't know.

Some people with Lyme are using salt/vitamin c therapy. I tried this last Jan for several months & I had great improvement but my BP went too high. I've since used my salt crystals on my foot where I have "something",first podriatist said it was a rare type of malignant tumor & wanted to do immediate surgery,got a second opinion & he disagreed totally. I made a poultice with the salt & have gotten whatever this is to almost totally disappear!

My breathing is something new because now it is a constant. I've had the breathing test,treadmill test (after ER visit for angina),and nothing shows up. I thought I was just having a bad sinus/allergy attack & took Allegra,it didn't help.

Am going to order the salt pipe & try it,not very expensive & cannot see where it would do any harm. I never felt better in my life than when in the ER & sucking in oxygen!:rolleyes:

I appreciate that you are sharing your story. I have some knowledge of the sheep disease (just can't recall what it's called),am guessing we have suffered similiar symptoms....

How did you get your system & what's the cost?

Thanks again for your reply,Buttons

[ainee]

G'day Buttons2 - Many neurological illnesses and conditions seem to have similar symptoms. I believe MOT - Mini Oxygen Treatment, in previous post - may repair damage done to the nervous system, regardless of diagnosis or cause - maybe from a forgotten injury, toxin or unknown cause years before the symptoms appear. I believe lack of oxygen to the nervous system or to the brain, due to injury and/or toxin, could be the cause of many neurological illnesses and conditions, which doesn't seem to show up in medical tests.

MOT increased the oxygen content to my body and brain, over an extended period of time, which I believe has repaired the damage done to my nervous system due to an injury to my head and spine years ago. Many illnesses and conditions are known to lack oxygen in the body, so MOT may just help many. I found I had to find the right dose rate and quantity for my weight, a lesser amount would not have been sufficient.
My symptoms were similar to PEM - Polioencephalomalacia - in our sheep - the symptoms of PEM being similar to CJD. I experimented with the treatment for PEM, which suppressed the symptoms and after 18 months of experimentation, the symptoms started to reverse.
My symptoms were similar to many which I've read about on BT - MS, CJD and many more that I could reply to. If I can suppress and reverse my horrific neurological symptoms with a simple, easy, cheap treatment - used in the treatment of a neurological illness in sheep, then others with similar symptoms to what I suffered, perhaps can also have better health.

I bought the VB1 tablets from the chemist (drug store) - and the other things were in my kitchen cupboard from the grocery store - it cost me about $1 when very ill as I was taking a larger amount of everything I found which suppressed the symptoms. It costs me about 50 cents a day now and am reasonably well most of the time, with only a few slight symptoms.
MOT increases breathing, which increases the oxygen content to the lungs from the atmosphere. Heat treatment and excercise also increases oxygen content - but only for a short time. MOT taken 3 or 4 times a day, increases the oxygen content 24/7 without any extra effort or machines etc.
My better health wasn't an overnight fix it all. It took much experimentation, research etc - but I can say without a shadow of doubt - that if I hadn't had the knowledge of our sheep's illness, symptoms and treatment, I don't think I would be here to-day writing this.
ainee.

[Buttons2]

Ainee, you must be down under eh?? Any idea how I could get this stuff in the US? There is one compounding pharmacy where I live but no idea if I'd need a perscription??

Would you mind sending me a PM with a bit more info (what ordinary kitchen items for instance).

I appreciate all your help!
Buttons

[ainee]

Buttons - Yes, I live on a farm in Australia. I don't know what the treatments I took would be called in US or anywhere else - but I do know that they suppressed the symptoms and after much research, experimentation etc., the symptoms started to reverse. If I - an old ex wool classing grannie from the Aussie sticks, can regain my health without any medical knowledge pre illness, then anyone can. I've leant a lot from my research and my will to survive.
I buy Vitamin B1 from the chemist (drug store) without a perscription. Took 250 mgs but later rose it to 500mgs a dose. Don't take VB1 if on pain relief.

I buy Vitamin C - started with a 1000mgs dose (but had to raise it to 3000mgs a dose) from the chemist, without a perscription or from the food store.

Now you're going to laugh at the next few things, but they worked the same as the VB1 and VC, and have similar water soluble properties as VC or have a volitile compound.
I also tried one teaspoon of Vanilla extract OR vanilla essence (not imitation)
in water or juice, or in any food as a dose.

Or one teaspoon of dark vinegar (not apple cider or white vinegar, they weren't strong enough) in water or in mashed vegetables etc. NOT in milk as it will curdle.

Or one dessertspoon (two teaspoons) of honey from the food shop - no special kind of honey - off the spoon or with food.
I could choose any ONE of the above at each dose.

The secret is finding the dose quantity for your body weight and how many doses per day. I experimented with low doses, high doses, less and more doses, going without for a few days, and earlier on, I went without treatment for 3 weeks, and I know if I hadn't had a VB1 tablet when I did, I may not have survived - I felt void of oxygen in my body and was having seizure like episodes. I think if the above MOT - Mini Oxygen Treatment - doesn't do any good, then at least it shouldn't do any harm.
What I found was - it wasn't what I took that was important - it was how it reacted in my body - that was the secret factor. Each dose (3 or 4 times a day) raised my temperature within 10 mins. to an hour, increased breathing, blood and oxygen circulation over an extended period of time - 24/7. I would advise anyone NOT to change any medication without seeing their doctor.

Heat treatment and excercise also increase temperature, breathing, etc., but only for a short period of time. With MOT, I didn't have to even think about breathing - my body did it for me. I've gained a lot of knowledge from my research and hope someone else also gains better health.
Buttons, I've answered your questions here, as others may be also be interested. Thanks.
ainee.

[Buttons2]

Ainee, I'm curious about the vanilla? I never bake anymore so don't even have any in the cupboard but can certainly get some. I've increased my B1 to 500 mg today & yes I've taken note of the rise in temp. I take my B12 first thing in the morning,then my B1 & folic acid after breakfast. Adding the B1 again after lunch (nothing else), and my stomach is nauseas (sp) right now.

I'm holding off on ordering the salt pipe for now,I can buy alot of vits with the money! The weather is a big factor in my breathing....doing far better today.

I've also noticed that taking just B1 makes me urinate more.I'm planning to stick to this for a week then add my B2 for a week & then my B6 so I'll be able to tell which vit does what.

Vinegar has lots of health benefits,my mother takes a teaspoon per day for gout. I'm diabetic so honey is a no-no for me but I've researched bee pollen tablets in the past,just never tried them.

I'd never laugh at what you've come up with! I have a cupboard full of herbals I've tried-Sarsparilla,Cat's Claw,Grapeseed extract,chorella,and lots more.

Take care,Buttons

[ainee]

G'day Buttons.
It was through experimentation, trial and error, that I found other things which worked the same as the VB1. I live nearly an hour from our local town, so when I was very ill, and too ill to drive myself to town, I tried many things which I had in the cupboard. Some worked, some didn't. Some say you get all you need from a good diet. That may be so for a well person, but when something happens, injury, toxin etc., to make a person ill, we need more than just a good diet to regain our health. You'd have to eat buckets of food to get the same result as I did from the easy, simple things I experimented with that helped me to regain my health. And by taking my dose of MOT 3 or 4 times a day, as well as my reasonably good diet, I knew I was getting what I needed.

I believe from all my experimentation, research, trial and error, that VB1 is the best form of treatment - maybe the medical profession will agree to use the VB1 treatment sooner than the other things because VB1 was scientifically tested as a successful treatment for livestock with neurological symptoms similar to the symptoms humans suffer with and apart from the VC, I guess none of my other treatments have been scientifically tested for medicinal purposes.
The vanilla worked the same as VB1 and VC. I also chopped up half an inch of vanilla bean and added it to my food as a dose. It worked in the same way. I'm sure there are many more natural foods which have the same properties and which will give the same benifit. MOT is good in the way that it is drug free, my dose is now less than 50 cents a day, and anyone can choose to take what they like 3 or 4 times a day. I would advise anyone not to change any medication without seeing their doctor.
I tried one bottle of B6. It worked the same. VB1, B6 and VC, have water soluble properties of carbon and hydrogen, which are absorbed easily and quickly into the body - Many other's eg. VB12, are oily to greasy solids - which aren't absorbed as quickly, and probably take longer to give any benifit.
About herbal medicines - I've found that the carbon and hydrogen value of herbs, not to be as water soluble as VC and vanilla - and some herbs, when taken for a long time, can cause toxins, which can cause similar symptoms to the ones being treated.

I found when I rose the VB1 dose near to 500mgs, I felt a creepy feeling under my skin. I realised later that this was my traumertised nerve endings regaining life. I was very ill - felt like death warmed up - I wonder sometimes 'how on earth did I survive?' I guess when the going gets tough, the tough get going.
Thanks Buttons for your support - I've posted information on a few other threads. I believe MOT will give better health to many - research found that many illnesses and conditions lack oxygen in the body - and MOT delivers extra oxygen to the body and to the brain 24/7. Diabetes is one of those which lack oxygen in the body. A man with MD said his legs felt better after a week on an increased dose of VB1 - the next week he said, 'I'm also a diabetic and my levels are better."
I guess I could write this same information on every neurological thread - my symptoms cross over many different conditions, but without any visible symptoms - I'm hoping that one day, someone with MS, CJD etc., with visible or believed symptoms, will gain better health on this simple treatment. Please keep me posted on your experimentation Buttons.
Thanks again.
ainee.

[Buttons2]

Ainee, I've noticed that my blood sugar is lower when I increased the B1 to 500mgs. I'm a type 2 diabetic,this was diagnosed about the same time as all my health problems began 8 years ago. It came on sudden & I wasn't anyone you'd think would become diabetic,I was very physically fit from my work & definitely not overweight or sedentary!

Just one more thing to deal with eh? When diagnosed diabetic I began drinking diet sodas & using Atkins products. A couple years ago I researched aspartame & concluded (for me anyway), that it is nothing but poison. No idea if you even have it in Australia-hopefully not! I still have one diet soda per day but that's such a change from the 5-6 per day I used to drink! I've tried to educate people about aspartame poisoning but it's the same as you with your MOT, we have no credibility.

I wish you well,Buttons

[ainee]

G'day Buttons.
I presume that a lower blood sugar level in diabetics is OK ?
My doctor tested me for diabetes - the test was a bit sus - but a month or so later, it was back to normal range. Maybe VB1 fixed it back then.

Do you think 250mgs of VB1 - 3 times a day, lowered your levels?
- or did you only notice it lower after you rose each dose to 500mgs?

Don't know anything about aspartame - not into drugs at all - although I was very thankfull for a treatment for inflamation in my lungs last year and the complications it left me with.

I guess our credibility will be noticed when others who gain better health from our experiences, stand up and support us. I've been battling for over 5 years to get heard. I wonder why it's so hard for something so simple to get noticed. I will keep going - I guess it is only a matter of time.
Thanks for your support
ainee

[ainee]

Buttons -
I wonder how you are - and if you've experimented with MOT? - if so, did it help in any way?
ainee.

[ainee]

G'day Buttons - It's been a long time since you were here - I wonder how you're going nowadays.
ainee.