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JCitron
09-22-2007, 10:37 PM
This has been the worsed I've felt in a very long time.

My original Sinemet schedule was 4-1/2 25/100 pills per day along with Amantadine 3x per day. I took the 1/2 just before bedtime, and I was able to sleep through the night. This had worked for about a year without any problems. Then about a month ago, I started waking up in the early morning hours, like 2:30 - 3:00 with either cramps in my feet, and/or twitching limbs with my feet and legs doing most of the moving.

When I got up in the morning, I was not only exhausted, but also very stiff, had a definte tremor in my right hand, and plain felt aweful. I would then take my first dose, and it wouldn't help at all. In fact it actually made me sick to my stomach. I even tried eating something with it, but that made things worse. At one point I actually felt like I was going to pass out. I got hot and sweaty, and had to put my head down on my desk at work. I got to a point where I dreaded taking the medication. By the time I took my second dose, or sometime the third dose, I was feeling better, and could then push my way through the day.

This has also affected my piano playing. I can't move my hands and arms the way I could before, and my fingers get confused. If I'm playing something that requires the index finger (finger 2), my ring finger (finger 4) will move instead. I also can't get my hands to play together evenly, and I stop sometimes in the middle of complicated passages because I get brain/hand freezes. I had a long trill stop in my right hand. The fingers got slower and slower and it came to a stop!

The other thing that changed is my bladder and my sense of taste. Geez, I hate to be blunt, but I feel like I need to go every half hour! I realize this so I hold it for a couple of hours at least. The night times are rough though, and I end up using the jug rather than trying to run for the bathroom because I have very low blood pressure (106 over 53 on last reading) and I've fallen a couple of times. I almost split my head on the threshold after the last fall!

As I said above, I've lost my sense of taste, or it's dulled. Bannanas taste horrid. I used to love 'em, but I can't stomach them now. They're a tasteless mass. This is true for a lot of food now, so I find myself eating just because I have to; not because I want to. This has also caused a massive weight loss. I went from a skinny 146 lbs. down to puny 128 lbs.

So Thursday (Sept 20th) was my neuro appointment. I've seen her enough now so she could tell I was feeling aweful. She had me try to get out of the chair with my arms folded, and I couldn't even move. She then tested my balance, which showed that I tend to fall backwards still, and she had me walk to observe my gait. My tremor was active in my right hand, and I was stiff because my dosages weren't working well.

We talked a little bit about it, and she decided to increase my Sinemet to 6-1/2 pills per day, but leave the Amantadine the same. I see her in 3 months to discuss how this is working. If it's not working, she said she'll try Comtan or Selegine. Since I've just started the routine on Sept. 21, I feel a little better today. I didn't even have any nausea when taking the first dose. The piano playing hasn't gotten better so hopefully that will return soon.

John

Chicory
09-23-2007, 08:35 PM
How long have you had PD and how long have you been taking Sinemet?

I hope you feel better.

Chicory

BEM
09-23-2007, 11:00 PM
I am surprised you don't take an agonist. I'm guessing you would mention it if you did take one. Your morning reaction of nausea and feeling that you're passing out is exactly how you would feel if you were taking too high a dose of Requip.

Requip also distorts taste, but if you are lucky you will have days when you can taste things correctly again. PD ruins both sense of smell and sense of taste. When I am tired everything tastes like water. The days when I can smell and taste are wonderful treats.

This illness is not nice at all.

birte

JCitron
09-24-2007, 10:40 AM
@BEM

I was put on Mirapex about a year ago, but it really didn't help much so she took me off of it. It wasn't as effective as she thought it would be, and even doubling the dose didn't help. Increasing the Sinement to 4-1/2 times per day worked, and now this had to increased to 6-1/2 times.

@Chicory
Thanks, I hope I do get better soon. I've had this about 2 years now with the past year steadily getting worse. I probably had this a lot longer than this, with everything starting to show up prominently in 2004, but who knows how long really.

This is discouraging. :(

John

BEM
09-24-2007, 11:13 AM
John, the best advice I can give you is: don't stop searching for the right combination of medicines at the right amount of mg.s. PD meds. are so strong that even .50 mg too much of any one of them per day can make you feel worse. We all need to experiment until we find the 'cocktail' of drugs that help us the most.
If I were you I would give Requip a try, it is an agonist like Mirapex, but they are not the same. I would be very careful not to take too much sinemet too often. It can make you feel worse instead of better, and its effect may not last as long as it would if you took less.
Try Amantadine, it works wonders for many of us. Start with 100 mg per day.
Don't try Artane. It may help, but it has nasty side effects.
Your body knows better than the doctor what is helping and what is not helping. You have to take an active part in your choice of treatment.
And remember that supplements and vitamins also help, f. ex. Curcumin and Flax Seed Oil.

JCitron
09-25-2007, 02:34 PM
Hi Bem,

I am also taking Amantadine 3x per day in addition to the Sinemet. When I first started with the Amantadine plus the 4x Sinemet, I felt really great, but now this doesn't seem to be helping as much. My neuro wants me to continue with the Amantadine along with the Sinemet 6x. I did start at 1x with the Amantadine, by the way, and now I'm up to 3x.

What I'm afraid is that since this is an atypical form of PD, that it maybe something more evil like Shy-drager. My gut is telling me that I've reached a point where the Dopamine isn't going to help me anymore, and now I've headed down over the edge without control.

I do know what you mean about to much Sinemet too soon. I did that before by mistake, and I found that I didn't benefit from the extra at that moment. It was as though I used all I could take in, and discarded the rest. And you're right, I did feel worse than normal.

John

BEM
09-25-2007, 04:10 PM
Check the message box, where it says: Welcome JCitron.

olsen
10-17-2007, 02:34 PM
are you taking any other medications--even those not related to PD?

pegleg
10-22-2007, 11:11 PM
I hate that you are not feeling well, but I hear ya! PD is a day-by-day struggle. Some days I feel just grand - maybe even good enough to say I feel PD-free. Then others - blah!

Tell your neurologist that Sinemet is a great find, but too much for a long period of time can cause havoc. Like someone else suggested here, you should look into trying an agonist (Requip, Mirapex, etc) or one of the emzymatic pills t hat "boosts" your Sinemet lasting power (Comtan, Tasmar). Then there's the old faithful MAO-Inhibitor that for some makes the Sinemet last longer - Eldepryl/Selegeline. Just for the record, I take one of each kind (and I take 8 Requip, 4 Comtan, and one Eldepryl along with my 5-6 Sinemet a day).

All of that mix and I was still having trouble with bad freezing in the mornings. When you go without dopamine that long (6-8 hours), you will feel pretty rough. Then my doc gave me a plan that for me has worked. I use the agonist patch (Neupro) - it's new so your doc probably has samples). I now use 6 mg of Neupro via a patch and my last Sinemet dose is a control-released one. For me they arae far too unpredictable to take all t he time. But that release of a little bit of medicine at a time has nixed the morning freezes! It's worth a try!

Best to you -
Peg

Lyric99
11-02-2007, 10:16 PM
Has anyone tried Zelapar?