Anyone hear the news story...bipolar mom killed her kids...

[milivica]

:( Just wondering if anyone heard the news story dh was just telling me, he just got back from work. He said a bipolar woman had set her three children on fire. That's all I know. I was not able to find more info on the net. I can't even form a feeling about it, it's hard to understand having that thought let alone carrying it out. Dh is sure being a sweetie, "it's ok if you don't get things done, I don't want to put pressure on you...." etc... Geez, I'm not gonna blow - but glad he thinks like that too cause we mom's do take way too much pressure upon ourselves.

Again, I have no opinion other than shock and disbelief imagining what the kids went through. Just totally confused, isn't there always that tiny voice regardless of impulse that says "Don't do it". So sad.

[Kristen (ColeysMom)]

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20070917/APA/709170787

UGH! :(

[Pamster]

This is terrible, how could a mother DO something so horrific! :mad: :eek: This is just terrible. :(

[milivica]

As I read the article, didn't seem like a 'bipolar' thing, ya know? Dh said the tv said she'd been off her bipolar meds - I feel if a person was truly that out of control, you sure wouldn't take the time to create the facade of a game to get the kids in a closet, etc... you'd just go ballistic. This really is not understandable at all to me. Remember, 7 years ago I'm the one that planned to take the kids to school, and turn myself into the mental hospital BEFORE I lost it, cause wow, it was just a really bad time then, preceded by a really bad decade or two...know what I mean? Anyhow, I really do understand 'feelings' that are bad, but can't everyone love their kids enough, to do the right thing, what ever that right thing is - I'm sure it's different for everyone. I can't believe you can fake normalcy well enough to get through in life, and not hear your own voice inside screaming "NO!!!" before doing such a haneous thing.

[Kristen (ColeysMom)]

Like the mom that drown her kids...YIKES!

I feel really bad for them, I can't imagine what could get them to that point either...and I don't EVER want to know!!!!!!

[peglem]

Speaking of Oprah...(other thread) I once saw a show where she interviewed a husband and wife, where the husband, suffering from severe depression, had killed all of there children. (3 or 4) The husband was in jail, but his wife was still married to him and had forgiven him and was trying to get him released from prison based on his mental illness. It was the only time I saw Oprah get really tough and hard on someone she interviewed. She was okay with the wife, but she nailed the husband, who admitted he'd had thoughts about killing his kids before he acted on it. She asked why he didn't get help. His response was that he was afraid they would take his kids away from him and he thought he loved them too much to actually act on his impulses. Oprah said, but even if they'd taken your kids away, at least they'd still be alive. She pointed out that it was selfish of him to not seek treatment to protect his kids from his mental illness, especially when part of that illness was thoughts of harming them. She was harsh, but I think, correct. Mili, I think few people would do what you did- say, "keep me away from my kids, before I hurt them." There's too much stigma attached to MI and even admitting you feel like hurting your kids. This guy on Oprah, never even confided in his wife, or she would never have left him alone with the kids.

[milivica]

I'll tell ya, one of the only things I fear, like FEAR, is my kids would be taken and put into the foster care system. When I did that, rather the night before I did that (turned myself in so to speak, BEFORE I did something I couldn't take back was my thinking) I thought to myself, "maybe they'd be safer in foster care, than with me". God it was terrible, feeling like AWAY from me was SAFER than with me. So, to be fair I have to speak for Vincent....on top of having autism, he was living with a crazy abusive mother.

I'm sure I posted all about it here, while it was happening...let's see, it would be fall of 2001, maybe 2000 - not sure. It was after the kids did something minor, I was ready to beat the daylights out of them, was shaking and sweating and trying to stay sitting on the couch, I felt like if I got up, I might beat them and never stop. I felt such rage, and fear for them, and fear of myself if that makes sense. I didn't know myself, all this rage. I realized, that folks that do that, don't grow up thinking 'gee I hope I beat or kill my kids someday', so if it could happen to them, it could happen to me, and my kids. Ya know? I get it that they guy thought his love would conquer any impulses, what I don't get, is why an adult wouldn't be so frightened to even have these thoughts, let alone impulses, they would DO something about it, to keep them and their kids safe from themselves. Unless he was selfish, and worried he'd be accountable, have to go to therapy, etc... I totally understand fear of foster care, I was in foster care, but if you have homicidal impulses towards your kids, hello, then move out and live in a nearby hotel, and tell your wife what you're thinking. Anything, live in the garage with a locked door between you and the kids. So I'm not believing that foster care excuse, it's not logical, there were other options....more options than those children had, that's for sure.

Now get this, when I went to the Mental Health place, and made the hardest confession of my life, which basically went "I'm a ticking time bomb, either I'm going to hurt my kids, or even someone that cuts in front of me in the grocery line, I don't trust myself, I get so mad I stab myself" and showed my self abuse (scabs, bruises) and they were telling me they'd put a rush on something and see me in SIX WEEKS. I was like "Six weeks! I can't wait six minutes! My kids are coming home from school in a few hours, I'm afraid for them to be alone with me, I can't understand what's wrong with me...." and still they would NOT admit me, sent me home, promising to see me within a week, which they did. They proceeded to put me on the correct medicine, very lucky for me - however, I was for some reason so sensitive to it I had to cut the pill in an EIGHTH, took 3 months of fatigue like the living dead, slept night and day, didn't shower, didn't do anything that took effort, and had a major headache for those first three months, and ya know what? THAT was better, than being afraid I'd do something to my kids I'd never be able to take back. Finally, my system adjusted, I got all the benefits of the med without the tiredness and headache.

Now Grimey is the only thing that gives me a headache, muah hah hah hah...just making sure she's paying attention.

[Isabelle]

just too sad to comment :( :mad: :(

[tgrimes]

Why then did you retitle this article 'bipolar mom' if you didn't think that significant to the crime .... just curious.

[tgrimes]

Okay, just to turn the flame on you... I would take issue itf you were a reporter and you started this story out "bipolar mom...
That's not the problem.
The problem is she's a texan.

[milivica]

Geez, I titled the thread the way I did cause I was listening to of all people, my huzzzzband. Knew only what he said, so posted what he said. Then read the story, actually I believe from the story the children are alive, yes? That being the major piece of information I did not accurately post in my question.

Now put out your flame woman. Start picking on me, something about my beloved rats or birds or fish or frogs or pet snail or dogs, about my long posts, puss OCD that YouTube almost cured but now I'm back to intrigue again. A poem, a song, I feel neglected.

[tgrimes]

I KNEW it. That's the part my dh would have picked up on too.
You feel neglected?
I'm not connected
i feel tired
in florida
it's 2
I must sleep now
but tomorrow
i'll be back
to pick on you.....

[milivica]

Tomorrow then!

Geez great poem so quickly!

Night night.