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Braindead
09-09-2007, 02:04 AM
I switched from Lipitor to Zocor (simvastatin) 20 mg about two years ago because I came across some comments saying that Zocor might have some neurological advantages. (It is now Generic ). It is more a preventative thing for high risk and may not be an effective treatment. That needs some more real research!

This seems to support my opinion and my decision to change to Zocor.

"In patients over age 64, those who took Zocor were 54% less likely to get Alzheimer's disease and 49% less likely to get Parkinson's disease than were matched patients not taking statin drugs.

Those who took Lipitor were 9% less likely to get Alzheimer's disease, a finding that was not statistically significant. Lipitor did not affect Parkinson's disease risk.

Mevacor had no effect on risk of either Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease."

Comments welcomed and requested.

Braindead

p.s My LDL is 72 and my HDL is 74. No loss in cholesterol control with Zocor.



1: BMC Med. 2007 Jul 19;5:20.

Simvastatin is associated with a reduced incidence of dementia and Parkinson's disease.

Wolozin B, Wang SW, Li NC, Lee A, Lee TA, Kazis LE.
Boston University School of Medicine, Boston, MA, USA.

BACKGROUND: Statins are a class of medications that reduce cholesterol by inhibiting 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl-coenzyme A reductase. Whether statins can benefit patients with dementia remains unclear because of conflicting results. We hypothesized that some of the confusion in the literature might arise from differences in efficacy of different statins. We used a large database to compare the action of several different statins to investigate whether some statins might be differentially associated with a reduction in the incidence of dementia and Parkinson's disease.

METHODS: We analyzed data from the decision support system of the US Veterans Affairs database, which contains diagnostic, medication and demographic information on 4.5 million subjects. The association of lovastatin, simvastatin and atorvastatin with dementia was examined with Cox proportional hazard models for subjects taking statins compared with subjects taking cardiovascular medications other than statins, after adjusting for covariates associated with dementia or Parkinson's disease.

RESULTS: We observed that simvastatin is associated with a significant reduction in the incidence of dementia in subjects > or =65 years, using any of three models. The first model incorporated adjustment for age, the second model included adjusted for three known risk factors for dementia, hypertension, cardiovascular disease or diabetes, and the third model incorporated adjustment for the Charlson index, which is an index that provides a broad assessment of chronic disease. Data were obtained for over 700,000 subjects taking simvastatin and over 50,000 subjects taking atorvastatin who were aged >64 years. Using model 3, the hazard ratio for incident dementia for simvastatin and atorvastatin are 0.46 (CI 0.44-0.48, p < 0.0001) and 0.91 (CI 0.80-1.02, p = 0.11), respectively. Lovastatin was not associated with a reduction in the incidence of dementia. Simvastatin also exhibited a reduced hazard ratio for newly acquired Parkinson's disease (HR 0.51, CI 0.4-0.55, p < 0.0001).

CONCLUSION: Simvastatin is associated with a strong reduction in the incidence of dementia and Parkinson's disease, whereas atorvastatin is associated with a modest reduction in incident dementia and Parkinson's disease, which shows only a trend towards significance.

PMID: 17640385 [PubMed - in process]


http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/5/20 ( more complete presentation )


Zocor vs. Alzheimer's and Parkinson's

Cholesterol Drug Zocor May Lower Risk of Both Alzheimer's, Parkinson's Diseases

By Daniel J. DeNoon

WebMD Medical News
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD
July 18, 2007 -- Zocor -- but not sister cholesterol-lowering drugs Lipitor or Mevacor -- may cut the risk of both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease, a new study suggests.

It's not the first time that the cholesterol-lowering drugs known as statins have been linked to Alzheimer's disease. A small clinical trial in 2005 suggested that Lipitor might improve mental function in people with early Alzheimer's disease.

Both Lipitor and Zocor are in clinical trials to see whether they really do help people with Alzheimer's disease. But now there's compelling evidence that Zocor may actually prevent not only Alzheimer's disease, but Parkinson's disease, too.

The provocative new data come from Boston University researcher Benjamin Wolozin, MD, and colleagues.

"Many people are looking at whether statins might prevent the progression of dementia in people with Alzheimer's disease," Wolozin tells WebMD. "But a lot of people in the field think that if you start statin treatment at the time you already have the disease, it might be the wrong time. It might be nice to talk about how to prevent the disease."

To see whether taking statins had any effect on Alzheimer's disease, Wolozin's team used the immense U.S. Veterans Affairs database, with detailed information on 4.5 million patients. Some 727,000 of these patients took Zocor, about 54,000 took Lipitor, and about 54,000 took Mevacor.
In patients over age 64, those who took Zocor were 54% less likely to get Alzheimer's disease and 49% less likely to get Parkinson's disease than were matched patients not taking statin drugs.

Those who took Lipitor were 9% less likely to get Alzheimer's disease, a finding that was not statistically significant. Lipitor did not affect Parkinson's disease risk.

Mevacor had no effect on risk of either Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease.

D. Larry Sparks, PhD, director of the Roberts Laboratory for Neurodegenerative Disease Research at the Sun Health Research Institute in Sun City, Ariz., is involved in clinical trials of statins for Alzheimer's disease but was not involved in the Wolozin study.

"This study keeps alive the idea that statins may be of benefit in the treatment of Alzheimer's disease and maybe even in mild cognitive impairment," Sparks tells WebMD. "But the most important part is that this addresses the role of cholesterol-lowering medications as a way to combat Parkinson's disease."

The study does not offer answers to the question of why Zocor seems to work better than Lipitor in preventing Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases.
Is it time to start taking Zocor to prevent neurodegenerative diseases? Wolozin says people should take statins only to lower high cholesterol levels.
"If your parents got Alzheimer's disease and you have high cholesterol, you might want to talk with your doctor about whether you should take Zocor or Lipitor," Wolozin says. "If your parents don't have Alzheimer's disease, but, say, your dad had a heart attack, you should probably take Lipitor, because it is somewhat better at preventing some of the [problems ] associated with heart disease. You have to look at your own personal risk factors."
Proof of whether statins affect risk of Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease can come only from controlled clinical trials. But as such trials would be extremely lengthy and expensive, Wolozin doubts they will be undertaken.
Help may come from ongoing trials looking at whether Lipitor or Zocor can help people who already have Alzheimer's disease. Those trials are nearly over; results are expected next year.
The Wolozin study appears in the July issue of the online journal BioMed Central Medicine.

terry11
04-04-2009, 10:55 PM
That is true, they say that Simvastatin actually decreases the occurence/risk of Parkinsons and Dimentia. I have also read that it is derived from a fermented food of some sort, so that can't be a bad thing. I also have seen reports that Simvastatin gives a person about 9 years of incredible healthy cholesterol levels. That is amazing!

Ted - http://www.simvastatin.co.uk/

Ted Hutchinson
04-05-2009, 12:17 PM
I don't know why that was aimed at me.
I wouldn't touch statins with a bargepole. While there are possible uses for them where all else has failed, I think it is a total disgrace that health professionals have fallen for this multi million dollar scam.

Cholesterol-reducing Drugs May Lessen Brain Function, Says Researcher (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090223221430.htm)

mrsdoubtfyre
04-05-2009, 02:57 PM
New research shows that statins negatively impact the function of mitochondria. These energy parts of every cell in your body, are essential to proper functioning.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127090735.htm


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Statins' Adverse Effects Documented

ScienceDaily (Jan. 29, 2009) — A paper co-authored by Beatrice Golomb, MD, PhD, associate professor of medicine at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine and director of UC San Diego's Statin Study group cites nearly 900 studies on the adverse effects of HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (statins), a class of drugs widely used to treat high cholesterol.

The result is a review paper, currently published in the online edition of American Journal of Cardiovascular Drugs, that provides the most complete picture to date of reported side effects of statins, showing the state of evidence for each. The paper also helps explain why certain individuals have an increased risk for such adverse effects.

"Muscle problems are the best known of statin drugs' adverse side effects," said Golomb. "But cognitive problems and peripheral neuropathy, or pain or numbness in the extremities like fingers and toes, are also widely reported." A spectrum of other problems, ranging from blood glucose elevations to tendon problems, can also occur as side effects from statins.

The paper cites clear evidence that higher statin doses or more powerful statins – those with a stronger ability to lower cholesterol – as well as certain genetic conditions, are linked to greater risk of developing side effects.

"Physician awareness of such side effects is reportedly low," Golomb said. "Being vigilant for adverse effects in their patients is necessary in order for doctors to provide informed treatment decisions and improved patient care."

The paper also summarizes powerful evidence that statin-induced injury to the function of the body's energy-producing cells, called mitochondria, underlies many of the adverse effects that occur to patients taking statin drugs.

Statins are among the most toxic drugs taken commonly today. One should really think long and hard before accepting them from a doctor.

Most of the studies encouraging them, have been funded by drug companies.
In fact all the research into cholesterol comes from the drug companies themselves.

Anti-inflammatory studies are now showing equivalence of curcumin to Lipitor to reduce endothelial inflammation. I'll take the curcumin any day. In fact I take a special high absorption type myself! No statins for me!

Here is a short YouTube from WHO and cholesterol research NOT paid for by drug companies. Dr. Kendrick is the speaker and if you search him
you will find others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE

BTW what the "neurological" advantage to Zocor is, is that it is more lipophilic and therefore enters the brain via the blood brain barrier, MORE than some of the other brands of statin. MORE into the brain, means more damage in the brain than from the others in other words. The damage factor is growing, and the older studies will atrophy away where they belong.

Jo6
04-06-2009, 12:18 AM
hello Mrs. D. it is good to see you. I hope things are ok with you these days. I'll tell you, last year when you were gone so long I thought you would Never get back:p It certainly was O Happy Day when you did get back. Well, I'm rambling so I'll just hang it up for tonight.

Good to see you and stop by more, ok? ((((*hugs)))) to mrs. D. from old Jo here:D

mrsdoubtfyre
04-06-2009, 06:15 PM
hello Mrs. D. it is good to see you. I hope things are ok with you these days. I'll tell you, last year when you were gone so long I thought you would Never get back:p It certainly was O Happy Day when you did get back. Well, I'm rambling so I'll just hang it up for tonight.

Good to see you and stop by more, ok? ((((*hugs)))) to mrs. D. from old Jo here:D

Hi Jo.... I've been around daily, but don't post much. In fact I catch alot of the spam that has been plaguing this site everytime I log on!

Also I'd like to add here, some historical data.
Larry Sparks works for:

“Sun Health is a non-profit healthcare organization (based in Sun City, AZ) that exists to serve all ages with excellence in medical care, wellness programs, research and education.” (http://www.shri.org/index.cfm?content=aboutus; accessed 11/09/04)

According to Nature.com, the Institute’s work on the effects of atorvastatin on people with Alzheimer’s disease, was funded in part by Pfizer, which sells atorvastatin under the brand name Lipitor. (Check, Erica, “Anti-stroke drug eases Alzheimer's symptoms,” Nature.com, 04/16/04, http://www.bioedonline.org/news/news.cfm?art=906; accessed 9/24/04)
from http://www.cspinet.org/integrity/nonprofits/sun_health_research_institute.html

One has to be very careful reading studies these days. Not only can they be slanted in favor of drug companies' products, they can be totally FALSE...as the recent Dr. Reuben fiasco illustrates. Here is a recent blog about the fraud that Dr. Reuben perpetrated...didn't even use patients in some of his "studies".
http://roguemedic.blogspot.com/2009/03/comment-on-dr-reubens-fraudulent.html

For 25 yrs female hormone replacement claimed benefits for women re: heart attack and Alzheimer's...and these were finally refuted in the non commerical HERS study.

Just like we have to monitor politicians that we elect...we can no longer trust everyone in the medical arena either.