FYI - Article "Is suicidal behavior a condition is its own right?"

[Lara]

Is suicidal behavior a condition is its own right?
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News@Nature
Published online: 16 October 2006;
Brain changes may suggest suicide risk
Suicidal behaviour linked to serotonin receptors.
Jim Giles

http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061016/full/061016-1.html
"There is growing evidence that suicidal behaviour is a condition is its own right and not just a consequence of other psychiatric disorders, say brain researchers.

People who commit suicide show distinct changes in their brain that are independent of any mental illness they may be suffering from, according to studies presented on 15 October at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience in Atlanta, Georgia. Such work could lead to new tests for suicide risk, say some of those behind the research."

[suede]

I read yrs ago that suicide can be a inherited trait as in that it can be a chemical imbalance that has been passed on.
It makes sense to me, not saying that is always the case but possible.
Linda

[waves]

i had no idea.

in a way, even tho i have Bipolar Disorder with dysphoria and can get into really bad shape... daily ideation, planning, "tests" etc... this is reassuring to me somewhat insofar as there haven't been suicides in the family history.

thanks Lara, you come up with the greatest stuff. you must love to research.

~ waves ~ from across the ocean

[Lara]

"you must love to research."

I do. Too much! lol Sometimes my eyes look like this. :eek:

[waves]

"you must love to research."

I do. Too much! lol Sometimes my eyes look like this. :eek:ROFL! :D
as such, i guess we could call you "google-eyed Lara" :p

~ waves ~

[Buttons2]

Interesting idea, I know my parent's are still around & none of my ancestors committed suicide,so what went wrong with my brain? And I do know I have at least one son with suicidal thoughts & perhaps even both of them,one is schizophrenic & has recently bought not one but two pistols......do you think I sleep well at night knowing this?

And I think of the Hemingway family,how many suicides? At least two that I'm aware of. People that had money,fame,talent,and yet couldn't handle life.

Let's hope they do more than come up with theories on this & actually find a way to help!

Thanks for sharing the info,Buttons

[jj2010]

Hi...i'm new here...been reading Lara's post about research into whether or not suicidal tendencies may be genetic. i'm bipolar...but i can remember having thoughts about suicide when i was as young as five years old. it may all be a part of the bipolar disorder, but it was interesting to read about the genetic (possibly) link. as far as i know, nobody in my family has committed suicide, so i guess i'm a first. will check back now and then and see where this thread goes. :-}

[Buttons2]

Welcome to BT! We'll look forward to getting to know you. Great bunch of supportive people here.

[Stetson]

When it comes to suicide my mother attempted several times and we were there to save her.The last time we didn't she was a chronic pain patient
before medicine knew much about chronic pain treatment.I have been a
chronic pain patient for 7 years so I been through all the steps before finally
getting help.I can see untreated pain would make people seek a way out
suicide often being the only way out.

[katecamp]

I was going to post a new topic when I came across this one.

My question is if it's inherited, then there's a gene that could be identified. Does this make sense? It could be identified early in life to prevent all the distress that comes along later, gives you the tools in which to deal. Wouldn’t that be something?

And you know, you’ve got to be a bit of a detective too, suicide isn't a thing family likes to talk about, especially if you’re from the older generation. I found out when I was 30 that my grandmother killed herself with poison, Dad didn't want to scare me.

well, I’m scared now.........

[katecamp]

This is a good article, from 2006!!!

Why is there never any follow up on these things??

[suede]

Kate,
I believe that being aware that this can be an inherited gene gives as a heads up to be more cautious and it helps to be as knowledgeable as possible to know what to look for.
Linda

[katecamp]

Hi Linda

I agree, but the medical community has got to change. MY POV is that they are killing us. I hope this doesn't insult you, but I am fed up with this and am trying to make a difference.

This is good article with absolutely NO follow up. That needs to change. I have yet to meet another who doesn't have issues, trauma and drama in their life. Compound that with pain and it's a recipe for disaster, add a dash of suicidal gene and watch out!!

[suede]

No insult taken here, I understand your point and wish you the best of luck in your venture.
I look back over the years and not also long ago the treatment of any person thought to have any sort of mental disability and how they were treated and realize things have come along ways and hopefully it won't take as long for even better improvements to be made.
Linda

[katecamp]

Hi Linda

I saw the movie about Francis Farmer and all the struggles she went through (Jessica Lange is such a wonderful actor and did such a fantastic job portraying this character). She had a partial lobotomy that changed everything. If you can believe Hollywood, I did Google her and the movie seemed to be right on. That was just 60 years ago. Then there was the Snake Pit.

I also saw a reference to an article about the man who invented Lobotomy. It was titled “Medical Genius or Medical Monster”. I too think things have come a long way but still think we are in the dark ages when it comes to mental health. Are you in the health care field? I wonder how one could gain access to these conferences if you’re not a doctor?

Peace and Love
Kate

[suede]

Kate,
I haven't seen the movies you speak of but will have to check them out, I don't watch many movies any more..
No, I'm not in the medical field, I grew up in a house with mental illness only to grow up to find I was bipolar and most of my family is and was, I can remember being suicidal at a very young age, even before my school years.
I have a brother that has been doing our family tree and have found out about ancestors that died in mental institutions and remember y mother speaking of some of the things that took place in them back when she was young, though my Mother passed away in 1970 at a young age.
I agree completely there is much to be learned by the medical profession not to mention the whole of our society..
Linda

[katecamp]

HI Linda

I had a vision (I get these frequently) the other day that our society as a whole is starting the path to help our selves and others. I told a friend that, in 2 years time, I don't think we will be in the same hateful situation as we are now. The heavy weight that seems to have lowered itself so close we can touch it. When I was really struggling at Christmas time, I told my therapist that it felt like the pain of the population was on my shoulders and I could feel how bad everyone felt, not to mention my own misunderstood headache. Then last night, a news story on anger, another on suicide and another on how we can do things to help ourselves understand what is happening and how to change it. (Thank you Ellen Degeneres). This was Dr Wayne Dyer on her show and he made a lot of sense.

It's time to come out of the dark and into the light and help each other. It will not be easy but I think it can be done if we all keep pushing without anger.

Peace and love to you girl

hang in there!
kate