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ErinENj
08-06-2007, 02:17 AM
Help!! I used to think I was a whiz on computers, since back in the day, I was. When I got my first computer at 13, I was teaching my parents and anyone else who asked how to work things. I still thought I was that way. Guess not! :rolleyes:

I've been having issues with my laptop since Friday. The screen suddenly started going black for no reason. The first time it did it, I hadn't touched it for awhile, so I figured it had something to do with my screensaver. So I turned it off. I thought it was fixed. I used it for two hours or so, then went to the bathroom. I was in there for a few minutes, getting ready for bed, so probably something along the lines of 10 minutes between brushing my teeth, washing my face, etc. and when I returned to my room, my computer's screen was black. When I touched the touch-pad, the screen lightened up a little bit, but nowhere near useable. If I held it in the correct light at just the right angle, I could see just barely enough to move the mouse to the start menu and then clicking the "shut down" button when you shut down windows. I restarted it, and went so far as to use the system restore function on windows and set it back to the previous day, before the issues started.

Then yesterday, I started out in the afternoon with changing all of the power settings. I don't have a battery in it (I overcharged it and it fried, so I just use the power cord. It's really irritating and beyond annoying, but I don't have a choice. I hadn't realized how expensive batteries are!!) so I just set everything to "always on" or to never put it into sleep mode or hibernation, etc. I thought that because turning off the screensaver didn't work, there must be something wrong with when my computer went to 'sleep' or with the power settings. So, I turned everything to where it wouldn't have any effect on my computer.

So you could imagine my shock when about an hour later, all of the sudden while I was in the middle of researching for an article I had to write for this job interview, my computer did it again. The screen went black, and again, lightened up enough for me to see what I needed to do to turn it off, but not to do anything else. I restarted it, and started researching Geek Squad, and things like that. I figured I had an hour, and as I was downloading this program from Geek Squad that allows you to chat with one of their 'agents', it suddenly did it again, but this time, it was only after about 35-45 minutes. When I restarted it again, I truly timed it. I made sure I knew exactly what time it went on and what I did with every single click between the time it went on and the time it went off again. This time, I was in the midst of my conversation with the Geek Squad agent. It was only 12 minutes. I had to finish my conversation holding my computer up to the light and making sure it was just in the right angle, and let me tell you, it was amazingly difficult! I never realized how dirty my screen was!

The agent told me that it sounds like it is the screen's backlight. That it was burnt out. But how long does it usually take for that to happen? I'm not sure, but I think I've had my computer something like 3 years. I went to the Geek Squad in my local Best Buy, but the woman nicely told me that I should see what Dell says before I give it to them. She couldn't tell me how much it would cost me to get it fixed through them, since they were just the middle-man. I thought they fixed them themselves, but they send it out to a third-party. And with my issue, it costs me $160 just to send it out and get an estimate for how much the work might actually cost. I might get that money back, but I might not. They couldn't tell me. So I have to talk to Dell and see what the deal is (I've been working on my article all day, so I haven't had time to do it after I got back from Best Buy this afternoon.).

Does anyone know anything about this? Any ideas on how I can get it fixed either quick or cheap, or even both? Any suggestions? Luckily, my mom has a laptop that she doesn't use that often (she uses her desktop 98% of the time, so this just sits there) so I've been able to borrow that and use it after making it my own by downloading a few programs, etc. But there's stuff on my laptop I can't get to that I might need. Most importantly, my resume, cover letters, and all of my writing samples are all saved on that computer. I may be able to get them out of the emails I've sent, but I'm not sure, and there's some stuff that's not in any emails. I really could have used some of the writing I did in school to help me on this article I wrote today, but it's only on my computer! This is driving me insane!! :mad: :confused: :mad: :confused:

Any help or suggestions anyone can give me would be amazingly helpful and beyond appreciated!! I'd cyber-kiss your feet if you can tell me what I should do! My father keeps telling me he knows what to do and that I should just give it to him, but he thinks he knows WAY more about technology than he really does and usually ends up screwing things up WAY more than helping! :o So anyone out there that could donate some sage advice and counsel would be incredibly appreciated!! Thank you hugely beforehand!! :D

CanRelate
08-06-2007, 02:42 AM
Ouch!!! What a horrible spot to be in...! I am going to backup all my data files to CD as soon as I get offline....haven't done it is quite a bit, and I cannot afford to redo some academic stuff which has yet to be turned in and graded:eek: :eek: :eek:


I wish I had some practical ideas for you.....the closest experience I have had to this is recently my screen was dimmer (slightly), and when I unplugged the adaptor and it went to battery, the screen went back to its usual brightness. I guess on the hot days we were having minor "brown-outs" over the regional electricity grid......

Have you tried plugging in an external monitor to your laptop? Just like we can add a full size keyboard, we also can attach a different output device...like TV or different monitor.....like from a desktop system.

Perhaps that would give you enough functionality to email yourself the files you need, or better yet give you the ability to see and backup to disk or CD the data files on your ailing computer. Certainly should do this before sending it out for service.....you might end up losing things permanently!!!!

Hope a techie comes by to help SOON!!!

Regards,
CanRelate

GardeniaGirl
08-06-2007, 02:50 AM
You could try plugging a monitor into your laptop (if it has the capacity for that) and see if you can use it that way. If it is just the screen that isn't working, you should be able to use an external monitor...but if the problem goes beyond the screen itself....

Otherwise, you will need to take it into a shop and see if they can do a hard drive back up for you.

I hope you can get it worked out ASAP!

I know how frustrating that can be!!!!!

Bobbi
08-06-2007, 03:21 AM
You can hook up your laptop via firewire or USB to a desktop and extract the documents you need/want.

I'd do that or boot long enough to get it into light where you can download/save the documents you absolutely "must have," and, then... I'd try (just to be sure) rolling back the computer to an earlier "checkpoint." (Since your computer is only 3 years old, it is XP platform, isn't it?). For the heck of it, I'd try rolling it back to a point prior to when you noticed the probs.

To rollback or do a restore:

Go to the Start menu
Then: All Programs
From there: Accessories
Then: System Tools
You should see: System Restore

I always back-up important data/files on an external hard-drive. Anything happens to my 'puter? I still have the most essential things I need saved.

shotspine
08-06-2007, 03:38 AM
There is a 'computer and technology' forum here also. If none of the above suggestions help, try that forum. Lots of computer knowledge over there. There is a thread near the top about a computer with a faded screen.....don't know if that is similar to your problem but it suggests checking your power settings (see thread on how to do that).

I'm technically illiterate and check over there whenever I have a problem or a question I can't figure out.

Good Luck!

suede
08-06-2007, 04:32 AM
Erin, I haven't a clue about this matter, sorry..

Though I have read others that have such problems and it was from the laptop over heating!

Good luck,
Linda

Pharmacist.steve
08-06-2007, 07:57 AM
If your laptop is three yrs old - average life expectancy of laptop is 3-4 yrs - the LCD screens are generally the MOST EXPENSIVE thing to replace on a laptop.. Here a a couple of links .. one is directions on replacing the backlight on a Dell and the other is source for the light

http://www.fonerbooks.com/laptop_6.htm

http://www.lcdparts.net/CCFL1.aspx

ErinENj
08-08-2007, 02:31 AM
Thank you all so much!! This was a major crisis, as the majority of this article I was writing as a test for a job I really want was on my laptop. I ended up having to rewrite the entire thing and even made two mistakes, stupid ones, that I know I made because I didn't have a lot of time to double or triple check things like I like to.

I hadn't thought about connecting a seperate monitor to my laptop, so thank you so much for suggesting it!! There's a spare monitor floating around somewhere at my grandmother's house (there's a lot of our stuff there, mine and Mom's, that we moved out of the house to 'downsize' as our house was going on the market.) so I'm going to get my hands on it and see if I can get it hooked up with my laptop and see what happens. Hopefully, that'll just confirm that it's my backlight and nothing else.

And Steve, thank you so much for the links!! I hadn't thought of fixing it myself, but I'm sure it would be tons easier than getting it fixed by someone else. I had my hard drive or something like that blow a few years ago when it was fairly young and way too new to have it happen to that laptop, and Dell sent out a technician to fix it. It took him nearly two hours to pull everything apart, clean it, fix the issue, and put it all together again. As I was watching, I saw that they could have easily sent me the part and the instructions for me to fix, and it would have probably been a lot easier for both parties and it would definately have been a lot cheaper for the company (it was under warranty so it didn't cost me a thing, thankfully!). I'm really thinking, with all the issues I've had with my laptop over such a relatively short period of time (my last laptop lasted me about 7 years, and it was the same model type as this one, and I didn't have any real major issues with it), and the fact that Dell makes sure that all of their computers (at least all the ones I know of or people I know of who have Dell computers) don't work with equipment from other manufacturers, especially HP printers, so it's a pain in the butt trying to use anything but their's. But, you get their printer, and you get stuck having to order ink cartridges through their website, which cost something like $40 a piece for a single cartridge, plus the shipping. And if you're out of ink and in the midst of a big project, you're SOL, unless you have the three days to wait and the extra $40 to pay for overnight shipping. It was just so much more of a pain then it is worth. So I've decided that I'm just going to get an HP or some other major commercially available computer that can be fixed at a store quickly and easily, and that'll work with all types of software and hardware. Plus, I absolutely LOVE the HP tablet PC, and I'd love to get my hands on one of them! I'm hoping that'll be my next laptop! But it depends on how much I'm getting paid, since those are something like $1500. Oh well...I can dream...

I'll keep you all posted on what happens! Hopefully, I can get this working with a seperate monitor (I never would have thought of that! And I know it can be done, but it just didn't click for some reason..) and then get it fixed cheaply or just fix it myself.

Thanks again everyone!!! I really appreciate it!!! Thank you so much for your help!!! :D