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Jamies Mommy
06-15-2007, 08:45 PM
I got this in my email and wanted to share.

Autism Why The Debate Rages by Sharyl Attkisson
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/06/15/couricandco/entry2934107.shtml

Isabelle
06-16-2007, 02:21 AM
Mighty! Super well written and researched. Mumps is now over 350 cases in Nova Scotia and spreading to other provinces.
What is that test to show a hole in the immune test that could make a child's immune system to over react to vaccines? Too expensive and so "it is not worthy" I would pay for that test, it would save tons of money to tax payers in the long run, for health and education,etc. would save a lot of anguish,pain and suffering....

milivica
06-16-2007, 02:44 AM
HA! Too many darn fine points to list. Very good.

Ted Hutchinson
06-16-2007, 05:56 AM
This section of Dr Cannell's Vitamin D and Autism theory may explain why some brains are more adversly affected by the challenge of Vaccines.

Is vitamin D required for normal brain development? (http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml)

Does maternal vitamin D deficiency injure the developing brain? (http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd1)

Is autism an ongoing destructive inflammatory disease process? (http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd2)

Do brains function better with higher vitamin D? (http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd3)

Does vitamin D explain the role of vaccines, mercury, and heavy metals? (http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/health/autism/vit-D-and-brain.shtml#hd4)

Isabelle
06-16-2007, 03:20 PM
i can't read all that, ted, my eyes are closing. one kid of mine, the oldest got autistic features, the next two are normal, under the care of same doctor, following same vaccines schedule....who can explain why?

Keggy
06-17-2007, 04:20 PM
i can't read all that, ted, my eyes are closing. one kid of mine, the oldest got autistic features, the next two are normal, under the care of same doctor, following same vaccines schedule....who can explain why?

Because there is a genetic predispostion in your family for autism. Just because you and your kids are related dosn't mean you all have the exact genetic makeup. And just because you live together dosn't mean you have been affected by all the same enviormental factors. Autism appears to be the result of genes and enviormental assault.
There are kids who are twins where one is autistic and one is not. I have seen that happen plenty of times and the really odd thing is not that one is autistic, its that the typical twin has a non-symptom chiari and the child with autism does not. Go figure that one out.

Ted Hutchinson
06-17-2007, 04:43 PM
i can't read all that, ted, my eyes are closing. one kid of mine, the oldest got autistic features, the next two are normal, under the care of same doctor, following same vaccines schedule....who can explain why?You don't say what month your children were born in.
If the early development in the brain can be modified by seasonal factors (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=15602761&ordinalpos=7&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum) then it is reasonable to suppose that being Vitamin d deficient at other critical periods for brain development, may influence the occurrence of different mental health conditions. Higher birth rates in spring and early summer of people with affective disorders (http://bjp.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/188/5/416)and alcoholism implies that this may be true for other conditions as yet not studied.
The problem is that with the increased use of Sunscreens/sunblocks/sun protection Factor makeup the bulk of the UK population are Vitamin d insufficient the whole year through and this is possibly by why the Autism /depression rates are escalating year on year.

What we need to do is to find a significantly high number of women with optimal 125nmol/L vit d status and follow them through pregnancy, ensuring at all times they stay above 125nmol/L, then if their children are autism/mental health problem free we will know who was right. In the mean time, as having optimal Vit d status reduces my cancer risk by 77% and my risk of colds by 70% I know which side I want to stay on.

Isabelle
06-18-2007, 12:23 AM
Because there is a genetic predispostion in your family for autism. Autism appears to be the result of genes and enviormental assault.
There are kids who are twins where one is autistic and one is not. I have seen that happen plenty of times and the really odd thing is not that one is autistic, its that the typical twin has a non-symptom chiari and the child with autism does not. Go figure that one out.

we tested him for genetic abnormalities, nothing.

when "autism" is explained as "genetic", keggy, the question in my mind is what has cause this "injury" to affected the deepest cells in our body the DNA to cause this "genetic disorder". for me the "injury" came in the shape of vaccines and "boosters" we received as his parents in crazy 70s. vaccines we didn't needed.

also "genetic susceptibility" how can we test for that? if there is a test it should available and if the result is positive for "susceptibility" not to vaccinated is the first step to prevent 'autism" or to prevent worsening any "autism".

danny, despite the ill care given at birth, he was developing well until the MMR vaccine, if it wasn't the ill care he received then the combination of our weaken immune system made his own immune system susceptible to react negatively to the MMR or the vaccine lower his defense leaving him open to an opportunistic bug, he had 3 days of 104 fever after the vaccination.

my dd developed ezcema at 12 days and my youngest boy developed respiratory problems, all related to weaken immune system.

my nephews and grand nieces, all normal. my husband's immediate family liver problems but next generation healthy so far. oh, they do not care about vaccines, who blame them.

Isabelle
06-18-2007, 12:41 AM
ted, that's pretty interesting, my autistic boy was born june 1st, the other two kids in november and october. also his father was a chain smoker and in the 70s we didn't know of 2nd hand smoke but i remember lying on the couch looking up wondering at all that gray cloud hanging in the living room, windows closed....

many good points, the introduction of strong sun blockers, also affecting the mood the lack of vit d, we are spending more time indoors playing video games, watching tv.

i read too that the government wants 'more studies' before approving as preventative remedy for cancers. like is needed.

just in case, i am giving again my son his multi vitamins, fish oil, adding now cod oil and 1000ius of vit d3, thanks to bring to my attention the relation between vit d and autism.

mrsjerome
06-18-2007, 05:09 PM
concerning the proceedings in Washington, if anyone wants to listen or read the transcripts of Cedillo V HHS Case No. 98-916V one can find them at
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/OSM/OSMAutism.htm
This is really a sad story of this young girl. I believe there will be 9 other cases heard beside this one in the year to come. These are test cases before a 3 judge US Federal Court of Claims filed by parents that are trying to access the vaccine compensation fund; Claiming vaccines have caused autism in their children. This fund was set up to pay for death, disabilities, and injuries caused by vaccines. This fund has paid out for a few consequences of the vaccines but never for any cases involving autism.

Ted Hutchinson
06-18-2007, 06:50 PM
ted, that's pretty interesting, my autistic boy was born june 1st, the other two kids in november and october.
That is what the theory would predict. The Nov Oct births would have had longer in the womb with a higher vitamin d status. the June1st would have spent long in a Vitamin d depleted womb.
It's NOT your fault. It's the fault of the health professionals not understanding the need for effective levels of Vitamin D supplementation.
I expect you took your prenatal vits and as 400iu is an insignficant amount when compared to the 4000iu your body uses daily and the 6400iu Hollis is now giving to his pregnant/lactating mothers.

mrsjerome
06-18-2007, 07:37 PM
Ted,
It wouldn’t explain it in my family. 3 children born in December one is autistic the other two normal.Also One born in May and one born in October both normal. According to theory the one born in May would have been the most likely to be autistic. but this wasn't the case.

peglem
06-18-2007, 09:19 PM
My babies were born in December, July, November, and October- the October one has autism. But, maybe this does make sense with this theory- I live in the desert and we are more apt to be outside in the winter months.

Isabelle
06-19-2007, 01:16 AM
Ted, the theory of vit D and autism does not explain why in countries where the people are outside because of stable warm climate still get children with, ok, let's called it 'autistic behaviours'. To me there is a more intrusive factor and it is the vaccines. vaccines are known to cause serious adverse effects, but it is also a large investment from the government, plus a strong lobbying from the vaccine manufacturers..... marketing their vaccines, they work on the average people's fears.