Have you tried OXYGEN treatment?

[ainee]

I wonder how many have tried any form of oxygen treatment.
If so, what kind of oxygen treatment was used?
How often was it used?
Did it suppress symptoms and give you better health?
Was it expensive?
Would you use it again?
ainee.

[Cry Tears]

When I had severe anemia, due to intestinal AVM (anuerism like mass) I was given oxygen to help compensat my lacking enough red blood cells to feed my brain cells...my hemaglobin was 5.1 hgb and crit...15% hct...this is deadly low, but when you have slow leaks like I did your body compensates and you can function "somewhat" "normally"..beleive me...I was a mess!
They'd put me in the hospital for days on end where they'd put me on oxygen and then transfuse me with several units of blood.
This was how I "lived" for 2+ years....all the oxygen in the world did nothing more than make my nose and ears sore from wearing the canulla 24/7.
We live in an area where there's plenty of fresh air and crisp clean oxygen because we live up in the hills, towards the mountains where the air is wonderful.
We sleep with our windows open nearly year round despite freezing temps.
So non of the oxygen treatment given to me did little to help the fact I was seriously ill from several causes.
I fully beleive in fresh clean air and pine tree's have healing proprieties in them.
But all the fresh air, oxygen in the world won't fix or cure a disease....what about people who live on full oxygen, such as resperators and breathing machines.
It doesn't cure them or fix what's broken! It does feed the red blood cells that in turn do what job they need to in feeding our body oxygen.
Blessings, cheryl

[ainee]

G'day Cheryl,
Anaemia is lack of oxygen in the blood - anaemia is one of the first signs of illness, and is noted in many illnesses and conditions. Slow down - or repair anaemia - and there may not be so many ill people.
You can also get oxygen toxin from too much oxygen. I wonder what the strength of oxygen they use in the oxygen treatment like you had has. I presume they can't treat anyone with this kind of treatment 24/7 forever.
Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment is also used to treat many conditions, but can cause bubbles in the blood and can damage the tissues and cells. Again, I presume they can't use this treatment 24/7 forever.
MOT taken 3 or 4 times a day, as part of the daily diet, can be taken 24/7 forever - I've been taking it now for over 6 years - it suppressed my horrific symptoms, and after many months of experimenting to find the right dose quantity and dose rate, it started to reverse the symptoms. I don't have many symptoms now, and I don't suffer with the many horrific cramps, spasms, twitches, tics etc., which really hurt - and which made my life complete -ell for over 2 years. MOT is gained by increased breathing of air we breath, therefore we are breathing in more oxygen.
With MOT, there are no drugs - or machines or fittings to worry about.
I also live in the mountains, but my body needed more oxygen to repair the damage done to my nervous system due to injury and/or toxins which I'd been subjected to over the years before my symptoms became worrying.
Even though it's a great place to live with fresh, clean air, there is also less oxygen than say at sea level.
There is around 23% or 24% of oxygen in the atmosphere. A scientist on the wireless said there is 40% less oxygen in the atmosphere now than there was a hundred years ago. Maybe this has something to do with why some get ill. If the oxygen circulation and oxygen content in the body is ok, then many people probably would have better health. An ill person wouldn't be able to breath in enough oxygen 24/7 to allow good health. A naturally well oxygenated body wouldn't allow anaerobics (living without oxygen) to survive and grow. After what I've been through and my documentation of MOT, I reckon the right amount of oxygen has everything to do with whether one is well or not.
Have a nice day.
ainee.

[Cry Tears]

a few things...
#!1: Anemia is when you have too few red blood cells (hemoglobin [Hb]) in the bloodstream, resulting in insufficient oxygen to tissues and organs.
I had severe anemia because of an AVM, (anuerism like mass) and was NOT illness that caused it, I was bleeding to death.


#2: Oxygen levels being lower at sea level is not true.
Quite the opposite is true because of partial gas pressures.
The inspired partial pressure of oxygen depends on barometric pressure, which is related directly to altitude.
At the Dead Sea, located 402 m below sea level, the barometric pressure reaches 800 mm Hg, thus resulting in high inspired oxygen levels.

In higher altitudes,the amount of oxygen in the air decreases.
That means that your arterial blood oxygen, and your oxygen saturation, also decreases.


#3 Hyperbaric treatments causing bubbles in your blood stream...No way!
Hyperbaric chambers you're under additional atmospeheric pressures and can add more oxygen rich blood to circulate thru your body.
It does NOT cause bubbles in your blood.
In order for bubbles to form in your blood, you'd have to be pressurized down far enough to the equivalant of much higher atmosphere pressures then suddenly unpressurized ....best way to understand this is a simple bottle of soda pop. Where you remove the top suddenly the carbon dioxide comes out of the liquid and turns to bubbles....same way with your blood.
Hyperbaric treatments are very important to anyone experiencing tissue necrosis and burn patients and it in fact promotes healing to damaged tissues and cells. Opposite of what you stated.
My husband knows this from having cancer treatments and necrossed tissues in his jaw after radiation treatments which caused him to have infection.
If it were not for the hyberbaric treatments, many people would have died.

The person making the statemtnt of there being as much as 40% less oxygen is pure bogas information.
If this were fract, we'd all be dead!
I think who ever told you these things are very misinformed. How sad.
I don't want to argue with you or make you feel bad about what you've written...but I needed to inform you that someones feeding you a lot of misinformation that just doesn't "ring" true.
Its good you've found what works for you...the placebo effect can work wonders for lots of people.
Blessings, cheryl
This information comes from someone who holds a PhD and studied medicine for a number of years.

[ainee]

G'day Cheryl,
I'm glad someone is taking the time to explain. I read that a lack of oxygen causes anaemia. With anaemia, why is there a lack of red blood cells which carry oxygen to the body?
Is it because of reduced or restricted blood flow?
Does risen body temperature and increased breathing increase blood flow?
MOT certainly increases the heart rate and temperature - as if excercising - which I found increases breathing.

You missread what I wrote - "Even though it's a great place to live, with fresh, clean air, there is also less oxygen than say at sea level."
Meaning there is less oxygen in the mountains than at sea level. There is also less oxygen at night time because of risen levels of carbon dioxide.

HBOT - info I wrote is what I've found in my research. I didn't say it isn't successful in treating people - just what I read about damage to the cells, tissues and can cause bubbles in the blood.
HOB delivers more oxygen to the body - Is that right?
Does HBOT suppress and reverse MND/neurological symptoms?
MOT delivers more oxygen to the body, by way of increased breathing 24/7, which suppressed and eventually reversed my horrific symptoms.

Cheryl, there is no placebo effect about what I've experienced, nor a placebo effect about the better health MOT has given me. I gained knowledge of the VB1 treatment in the first place because it's a treatment for livestock with a symptom which I displayed. Our sheep died before they could be treated. I experimented with many other things which also raised my breathing 24/7 - MOT would be easier, cheaper, less intrusive than by a machine.

Surely the scientist whom I heard on the wireless several years ago, saying there is less oxygen now than one hundred years ago - wouldn't be telling a furphy. I guess we get used of having less to breath and get along fine - until we are unwell - and I do believe increased oxygen 24/7 by way of MOT will give better health.
I haven't got claim to any medical degree - but I have my better health, which I wouldn't have if I hadn't persisted with my experimentations, research, etc., I'm not here for an arguement either and I don't feel bad about what I've written. I will stand by MOT til the cows come home and will continue to contact medical people until one of them starts to take it on board.
Have a nice day.
ainee.

[Kira]

I read that a lack of oxygen causes anaemia. With anaemia, why is there a lack of red blood cells which carry oxygen to the body?


A lack of oxygen DOES NOT cause anemia. It is the other way around... Anemia CAUSES you to be less able to carry oxygen around your body.

Anemia means you don't have enough/normal red blood cells. Because the red blood cells carry oxygen around your body, not having enough red blood cells causes you to be less able to carry oxygen around your body. But lack of oxygen DOES NOT cause anemia.

Many things can cause a lack of red blood cells (anemia). Basically, either 1) you don't make enough red blood cells, 2) you make abnormal red blood cells, or 3) your red blood cells are lost/destroyed.

Examples of 1) "you don't make enough red blood cells" are:
-Not enough iron in the diet (iron is necessary to make red blood cells)
-Not enough folic acid in the diet (folic acid is necessary to make red blood cells)
-Not enough B12 in the diet or not absorbing B12 from your intestines (B12 is necessary for red blood cells to divide)
-Other nutritional problems, such as lead poisoning, malnutrition, etc
-Not enough of the hormone erythropoetin, made by the kidneys, which signals your body to make more red blood cells
-Failure of your bone marrow, where red blood cells are made, due to drugs, toxins, infections, cancer, etc

Examples of 2) "you make abnormal red blood cells" are:

-Genetic disorders, such as sickle cell anemia, G6PD deficiency, thalassemia, etc
-Not enough B12 in the diet or not absorbing B12 from your intestings (you end up with big red blood cells because they don't divide normally)

Examples of 3) "your red blood cells are lost/destroyed" are:

-Bleeding (i.e. trauma, ulcers, hemorrhoids, tumors, blood in the urine)
-Your body making an immune response against its own red blood cells
-Malaria (the parasites grow inside of the red blood cells, then break the red blood cells open to get out and reproduce)
-Mechanically damaging the red blood cells (i.e. squashing them with an artificial heart valve or squeezing them through a massive blood clot)

[Kira]

I presume they can't treat anyone with this kind of treatment 24/7 forever.
Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment is also used to treat many conditions, but can cause bubbles in the blood and can damage the tissues and cells. Again, I presume they can't use this treatment 24/7 forever.


Cheryl is not describing hyperbaric oxygen treatment. She is describing plain old oxygen given through a little tube that goes under your nose (called a nasal cannula). Hyperbaric oxygen treatment is very different. For HBOT, they stick you in an airtight chamber and pump in oxygen under pressure (like being in a giant, oxygen-filled pressure cooker). This is supposed to force the oxygen into your tissue. But Cheryl is not describing this. She is just describing them giving her extra oxygen to breathe. And, yes, there are people who receive oxygen 24/7 for years and years.

[ainee]

G'day Kira,
Thank you for explaining all the above. I know Cheryl wasn't describing HBOT - I mentioned it as another oxygen treatment I'd come across in my research.
If the oxygen content and circulation to the body were increased 24/7, would there be less risk of an ill person getting an anaemic condition or the anaemic condition advancing - regardless of the cause of the anaemia?
I've found anaemia is one of the first signs of many illnesses and apparently many illnesses and conditions are known to lack oxygen in the body, tissues, cells etc.
You mentioned sickle-cell anaemia. I read some info in the Encyclopaedia Britannica about this. Apparently when the sickle-cells are exposed to oxygen, they change formation. Take away the oxygen, and they revert back to sickle-cells.
So the sickle-cell - or it's host if it needs one or more - must be an anaerobic, part anaerobic or have an anaerobic cell. Some cancer cells are anaerobic. Virus' need a host, in some cases more than one, to grow and multiply - some of these hosts may be an anaerobic etc also. By increasing the oxygen to the body etc., by gently increased breathing 24/7 - as with MOT - I think many people would have better health.
I wrote about sickle-cells on BT in a CJD thread about Prions. It's believed that prions are the cause of brain wasting diseases. From the research I've done, I believe prions are not the initial cause of brain wasting/destroying diseases and conditions, but lack of oxygen to the brain due to injury and/or toxin, could be.
There are so many illnesses which have no known cause or treatment. Maybe lack of oxygen is a cause - and maybe - just maybe, I have stumbled upon a treatment which will give the ill better health, regardless of the cause.
I guess medically trained people will not agree with me, but from where I've been and where am now, I believe my research and experimentation might one day give hope to many ill people.
Have a nice day.
ainee.

[Cry Tears]

Ainee....if your legs are cut off and you have profuse bleeding, all the oxygene in the world will NOT
the bleeding or cure your legs being severed from the body!
I had severe anemia caused from an intestinal AVM...arteriovenous malformation that I was born with...
it was the size of a baseball.
I spent weeks in the hospital hooked up to oxygen...it did NOTHING to change the fact
I was bleeding to death and had severe anemia (5.1hgb and 15% hematacrit)....
all they could do was transfuse me over 25 times during the 2+ years till it was found...
all by accident during Crohns surgery (bowel resections).
All the oxygen in the world did little for me as I lacked enough red blood cells that carry the oxygen in your body.
Some of my RB cells were small and immature as well.
The only thing the oxygen did for me was make my nose and ears sore from wearing the nasal cannula!
The oxygen did NOTHING to help my Fibromyalgia and other illnesses.
Remember a few years back in Japan they had oxygen "bars" where you could go hook up to oxygen and socialize, share drinks with others.
Loads of studies done, proved it did little more than drain ones pocket books.

My husband is a mouth cancer survivor....but because he's had radiation, levels at the top...
he's gotten many bone infections in his jaw....Hyper baric treatments are the best way to treat this sort of tissue necrosis...
and is a life saver for many who suffer such ailments.
We researched all we could regarding HB treatments....
assured the blood would not bubble or "boil" as some people think will happen....
can only happen if depressurized too quickly....
just like deep diving...causing "The Benz"...
the treatment for "Benz" is hyperbaric treatments, then depressurising them slowly.

My husband lived aboard a submarine for many years on the bottom of the ocean 4 months at a time....
in a perfect "oxygen tank"...but my husband still got mouth cancer!
He smoked only 2 years and thn only a very little...He NEVER chewed or snuffed.
At the time he got mouth cancer he didn't smoke or drink alcohol for 15+ years!
He was only 36 years old and ate a very wholesome vegetarian diet!
It was just a fluke he got mouth cancer....
as did another patient his doctor had at same time...an 18 month old child.

I think researching on the internet you'll gain more knowledge than reading outdated Britanica's.
But keep in mind whats written on the internet is not always true EVEN if they have PhD's!
...does NOT make it correct information!
Anyone can put up a personal web site, make all sorts of claims with good--sounding information,
but full of "holes" and down right misinformation.
Blessings, cheryl

[ainee]

G'day Cheryl,
Yes, some illness or condition may be to severe to be treated, but if MOT were started early in some illnesses, it may prevent them from developing into a more serious illness.
You wrote - "as I lacked enough red blood cells that carry enough oxygen in your body." and " Some of my RB cells were small and immature as well."
From what I've read in the EB (some facts never change) - "A continuious supply of oxygen is required by living cells ---- A normal man at rest needs about 250 millilitres of oxygen per minute ---- All of this is transported by the blood, most of it bound to the hemoglobin of the red blood cells. Oxygen deffuses through the plasma and into the red cells."

So if there isn't enough oxygen in the blood to start with, then the red blood cells are not going to get the right amount to stop them from being small and immature - and anaemia occures - then other illnesses follow. If there aren't enough red blood cells in the body to carry the oxygen, then I believe MOT would increase the oxygen circulation and content of the body and blood to feed the existing RB cells. That perhaps would give better health.
So there is a slight risk of getting bubbles in the blood using HBOT. It wasn't a furphy that I read after all.
The MOT I'm talking about won't drain anyones pockets - there are no drugs or machines - it cost me about $1 a day when I was experimenting with large doses of my treatment - I was very ill. It costs me about 50 cents a day now to stay reasonably well. The treatment suppressed and eventually reversed most of my symptoms. It wasn't an overnight fix it all, it took over 2 and a half years to gain better health and I'm getting more energy and better health as time goes by. Honest to God, TRUTH, it really did happen to me - and I'm sharing my story so others may benifit - if they can overcome the doubt that a simple treatment could work.
Have a nice day.
ainee.

[Cry Tears]

Ainee...is good you've found something that works for you.
Once they removed my annuersim mass that was size of baseball, within 2 days my blood levels were back to normal...so the bleeding source was stopped, then my cells were no longer running out the "holes" faster than could mature...and my hemaglobin and hematicrit levels are perfect!
I wish a good lung full of air would be a cure all for everyone!
I do beleive fresh air, excersise, wholesome foods, clean water and prayer is what we all need to get well!
Blessings, cheryl

[Kira]

How do you know that your body did not just heal on its own during the 2 1/2 years it took for you to get better, Ainee?

[ainee]

G'day -
Cheryl, - I'm not claiming MOT as a cure for anything - but I believe it will give better health to many. I'm not talking about a good lung full of air either - I'm talking about an increased oxygen intake, content and circulation to the whole body etc, 24/7 over many months - then a continuation of the treatment, as in my case for over 6 years now - and from what I've been through, I believe it will help repair damage done to the nervous system, due to injury and/or toxin - known or unknown - regardless of diagnosis - and from the condition of some BT posters, any improvement in their health would be a bonus.
Yes, I had heaps of fresh air, excercise, wholesome foods and clean water before I became ill - I also had 3 head injuries, one which caused fused vertabra in my neck - another horrific injury in a tractor which I now believe was the beginning of my neurological symptoms - and another when I rolled a 4x wheeler whilst spraying noxious weeds on the farm.
A medical test found I had a high rate of Cadmium - and a few other bits n' pieces which doc didn't think would cause my symptoms.
And I certainly re-learnt how to pray and also believe my faith has helped me this far - and maybe if I continue to pray hard enough, others may also gain better health from my experience.

Kira - Have you ever had Opisthotonus? I didn't know what it was for 4 years after I suffered it. I thought arching of the back, dead limbs etc., were from hard work and getting older. Being out in the bush, I didn't even go to the doc. Then horrific vibrations in my body several times and electric spasms in my spine, plus horrific cramps, hurtful twitches and tics - plus many more which I've written about - No, I didn't imagine these - and even though the doc wanted me to take medication, I know it wouldn't have suppressed my symptoms. I took his medication for a few weeks, but it drugged me up so much, I couldn't work, play tennis, drive nearly an hour to town to shop for food and I certainly wouldn't have been able to research, experiment and survive if I had been drugged up.
I haven't any other explanation - so you will just have to believe my word.
Have a nice day.
ainee.

[CathyE]

Can someone please tell me what MOT is?
Secondly, I am looking into this for a young woman with Hydrocephalus and a shunt which is definitely affected by barometric pressure. So, I assume that BMOT could do more harm than good for her symptoms (not necessarily Hydro symptoms, aomething else is going on!) and posibly damage her brain (brain or ventricles can collapse-Very Serious situation!).

I noticed this hasn't been updated since Aug/07, so I am hoping someone will see this and reply fairly soon!

Cathy in Toronto
(but the young woman is from the USA)

PS I couldn't read the whole thread due to headache and neck pain, so forgive me if this was already explained well!

[ainee]

CathyE
MOT is - Mini Oxygen Treatment. It increases the oxygen circulation and content to the whole body, tissues, cells, organs and also to the brain. You won't find it in any medical books yet - it's a treatment which I've experimented with and found how and why it worked to suppress and eventually reverse most of my neurological symptoms.
I've posted info on a lot of different threads on BT, because my symptoms crossed over many different illnesses and conditions - regardless of cause or diagnosis.
I started a thread in Hydrocephalus -
Hydrocephalus - treatment ? - by ainee - last post 1-07=2007. (now about page 30 in Hydrocephalus)
I replied to several there also - #4 explains the info I found about the brain not having a "pump" like the blood does. Breathing and muscle action help move the brain fluid - I thought this treatment may give relief to those with this condition.
I'm happy to answer any questions - if I can.
ainee.

PS. A lady I know sufferes with headache - she filled a doubled up stocking with a kilo - about 2 lbs - of rice. Tied the top - put it in the micro wave for 3 minutes - then wrapped this around the top of her head. It gave her some relief.